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I don't think Darkseid was "running from Superman." I think he was aware that the planet was about to be destroyed (pulled into The Source?) and he didn't want to be pulled back into The Source along with the rest of the planet while he's wasting his time fighting Superman.

The bad part is bleeding from both Superman's punches and Batman's kick. But it's really too cartoonish to take it seriously. Superman's speed-blitz has no more effect on him than Batman's kick? WTF? In fact, he grunts from Batman's kick but not from Superman's punches.


The part with Batman, especially compared to Superman makes the showing so comically bad that it's hard to take seriously. It's like The Hulk being choked out by a snake or Odin being KOed by an earthquake. It's just too outlandish to try to put it into the average, IMO.
You always have an excuse but the bottom line is this stuff is all canon. Ds got his omega powers back and Batman a mere human could still make him bleed. laughing

Even though you persoanlly might think its ridiculous it still counts.

Superman proved again why he to me is just a physical beast and why he is superior physically to Ds. He made him flee like a bich. Superman made it out ok also. Ds didnt want to go back into the source wall. Supes did it once and if Ds wouldnt have disappeared it might have happened again.


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Batman made Spectre bleed with a Bat-Kick, DS is just lucky that Bruce didn't take his head off with it.

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You always have an excuse but the bottom line is this stuff is all canon. Ds got his omega powers back and Batman a mere human could still make him bleed. laughing

Even though you persoanlly might think its ridiculous it still counts.

Superman proved again why he to me is just a physical beast and why he is superior physically to Ds. He made him flee like a bich. Superman made it out ok also. Ds didnt want to go back into the source wall. Supes did it once and if Ds wouldnt have disappeared it might have happened again.




... How did Superman look like a physical beast when 3 attacks at super-speed had no more effect than Batman's attack? In fact, he did not make Darkseid grunt as Batman did. That part is as bad for Superman as it is for Darkseid. And while it's canon, so are Thanos being beaten by a girl whose only power is to control squirrels, The Hulk being choked out by a snake, and Odin being KOed by an earthquake.


As for Superman "making him flee," why do you think he had his right hand in a fist after Superman's attack? He wasn't planning to get into a fight with Superman? He was making a fist just for fun?


The bottom line is that he was taking himself out of danger of being consumed by The Source, which the planet was about to be sucked into. Is it possible that Superman could've put him in there? Yeah. It's also possible that Desaad could've recovered and taken both of them out while they were fighting. Speculating is really irrelevent. He could defeat Superman, kill Bekka and Batman, and still be sucked into The Source because that's where the planet was headed. Why would he stick around and fight when it would end up with him back on The Source Wall even if he won?

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... How did Superman look like a physical beast when 3 attacks at super-speed had no more effect than Batman's attack? In fact, he did not make Darkseid grunt as Batman did. That part is as bad for Superman as it is for Darkseid. And while it's canon, so are Thanos being beaten by a girl whose only power is to control squirrels, The Hulk being choked out by a snake, and Odin being KOed by an earthquake.


As for Superman "making him flee," why do you think he had his right hand in a fist after Superman's attack? He wasn't planning to get into a fight with Superman? He was making a fist just for fun?


The bottom line is that he was taking himself out of danger of being consumed by The Source, which the planet was about to be sucked into. Is it possible that Superman could've put him in there? Yeah. It's also possible that Desaad could've recovered and taken both of them out while they were fighting. Speculating is really irrelevent. He could defeat Superman, kill Bekka and Batman, and still be sucked into The Source because that's where the planet was headed. Why would he stick around and fight when it would end up with him back on The Source Wall even if he won?
I have never heard Sgirl and her defeating Thanos as being canon or mentioned in any other book. Anyways if he did lose to her shes a badass.

Supes ran him off. ds took off when Supes mentioned putting him back into the source wall which he already did once.
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Face it man they are turning Ds into a chump.


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Um, being referenced in another book isn't needed for something to be canon. The comic that Squirrel Girl beat Thanos in is a 616 title.


Really, this comic was horrible for Darkseid and for Superman. It doesn't say anything about who would win a fight between the two. It does put their strength levels as closer than they should be if Superman can make him bleed, even if it is via sucker-punch at super speed. But that is really offset by the fact that Batman's attack had the same (or more if you include the grunt) effect. If we take it at face value, then Superman, Darkseid, and Batman all appear to be around the same level of strength and durability.

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Um, being referenced in another book isn't needed for something to be canon. The comic that Squirrel Girl beat Thanos in is a 616 title.




It's canon. Fine. However, can you not see the difference in contexts? A counter-argument for DS having a low showing against Batman would be to say that Squirrel Girl beat Thanos when the latter is obviously meant to be taken lightly?

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It's canon. Fine. However, can you not see the difference in contexts? A counter-argument for DS having a low showing against Batman would be to say that Squirrel Girl beat Thanos when the latter is obviously meant to be taken lightly?


How can Batman be considered a low feat when He has kicked the shit out of the Spectre and killed doomsday clones with Bateranges, and been able to hide himself from a whole group of white martians? batman is GOD.


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Um, being referenced in another book isn't needed for something to be canon. The comic that Squirrel Girl beat Thanos in is a 616 title.


Really, this comic was horrible for Darkseid and for Superman. It doesn't say anything about who would win a fight between the two. It does put their strength levels as closer than they should be if Superman can make him bleed, even if it is via sucker-punch at super speed. But that is really offset by the fact that Batman's attack had the same (or more if you include the grunt) effect. If we take it at face value, then Superman, Darkseid, and Batman all appear to be around the same level of strength and durability.
You are getting ridiculous now. No it just means that they both can make him bleed but Superman can beat him down. He already has before.

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How can Batman be considered a low feat when He has kicked the shit out of the Spectre and killed doomsday clones with Bateranges, and been able to hide himself from a whole group of white martians? batman is GOD.


Batman vs Squirrel Girl then? evil face

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Batman vs Squirrel Girl then? evil face


They would mate and have flying squirrel kids.


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Batman vs Squirrel Girl then? evil face
If people take SGirl seriously and count her shes a badass. She crushed Batman and hes the only one bleeding after this one.

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If people take SGirl seriously and count her shes a badass. She crushed Batman and hes the only one bleeding after this one.

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Batman's feats>>>>>>>>>>>>Sg's feats.


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Batman's feats>>>>>>>>>>>>Sg's feats.
Batmans prep feats>SGirls feats.


Physically shed kill him in a heartbeat.


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Batmans prep feats>SGirls feats.


Physically shed kill him in a heartbeat.


Thanos's prep feats>>Superman's.

Physically, Superman has far superior feats to thanos. wink


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Are we all forgeting what Batman's batkick has done in the past? He made Captain Marvel revert back to Billy Batson and caused him to bleed, and he HURT Spectre [even believe there was blood splater too] when he kicked him.


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Thanos's prep feats>>Superman's.

Physically, Superman has far superior feats to thanos. wink


I personally doubt superman would take anyone on Thanos level for a physical majority. Using doom in that example would be far better.

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I personally doubt superman would take anyone on Thanos level for a physical majority. Using doom in that example would be far better.

I'm not saying that Superman can Take Thanos for the majority using all of thanos powers, but SUperman cleary has the better physical feats of the two.


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