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A what if is an alternate universe in marvel. CANON. The Else worlds are canon. The thing about the World's funnest is that it was EVERY universe depicted in it. Not just elseworlds stories. Actual Universes with in the DCU. Thought you knew that? Do you read DC at all? Geez.
And even if it had every universe depicted in it doesn't make it cannon. Once again I refer to Thanos: the end is showed Thanos ending every universe in Marvel and even had the Living Tribunal there. Yet it isn't cannon at all.
All I'm saying is that nothing you have pointed out directly links to World's Funniest being cannon. It has never been referenced outside of the comic itself. Whether Hypertime exists or not does not make it cannon.
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What you are NOT getting is that Hypertime MADE EVERY SINGLE Elseworld's tale canon. As in an alternate reality. The thing with World's funnest is that it wasn't an alternate reality. IT was EVERY reality. And there is ONlY one mxy. Even alterante mxy's are still mxy. Proof, countdown's history on mxy.
Once again I will refer to a simple matter. Vertigo Hypertime hasn't made all of Vertigo cannon so until World's Funniest finally gets mentioned anywhere within the main universe then it becomes cannon not until then though.
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What you are not Getting is that ALL ELSEWORLDS ARE CANON> THEY ARE ALL EVENTS THAT HAPPENED. What don't you get about that. Stated in the kingdom and then shown again in IC. Geez. And what ifs happen. They are real realities that happen. The ENd is canon unto the LT but not unto the 616.
Not really. World's funniest is once again a comic which has yet to be referenced by anyother DCU comic book. Not only that but Mxy's power level in that comic has not been reproduced in anyother media.
Therefore it isn't cannon until it is stated on panel or by the company itself to cannon. Hypertime doesn't make everything cannon. Once again because if it did then all of Vertigo would be cannon but it isn't.
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Wait, what do you mean Mxy's power hasn't been reproduced? Are you kidding me?
The Joker Toyed with the DC universe with mxy's power. IN DC, the Unvierse contains all of the power of the multiverse. It's why Alexandor Luthor was able to pull all of those earths out of it. And forge them back into it. Mxy also warped a retcon and pulled alternate superman and batmen out of the multiverse that had been previously destroyed in superman batman 25.
Mxy also Bound the ultimator, the being who represents EVERYTHING. Took a shot from him that killed the 5th dimensional guard with only blast singes.
Vertigo is canon unto vertigo and to the beings who cross realities.
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WRONG. The entire point of Hypertime is that EVERYTHING is canon. That every what-if took place in some other universe. DC does not work the same as marvel. Vertigo is canon as well.
Go read up on Hypertime, and Mxy's respect thread. Since you obviously don't get what you're talking about.
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OMG. I can't believe you are this Aaaaaaaaaaaaaarg. Everything is canon unto itself. That is the point. In crisis of the infinite earths, when the JLA firstme the JSA, DC established that BOTH continuity were BOTH canon. Just not to each other.
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I love this. Even Quan here gets Hypertime for the most part. You're right, it's not always canon to the mainstream DCU. But there is only one Mxy, so WF is canon for him.
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Ok let me point this as slowly to you as possible.
There is only one Supreme being yet many times in Vertigo the normal DCU and Vertigo have made different variations on it. Now there is also only one supreme creater in DC yet in Vertigo not everything concerning it is cannon why because not everything is cannon. Nor has everything any comic company put out being completely cannon.
So until World's funniest get mentioned in a cannon comic even if there is only one Mxy it is not cannon for DC.
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Why are you bringing up Vertigo? I dont' remember vertigo beign mentioned in Hypertime. ANd even if some of the concepts cross over from reality to reality, that doesn't make vertigo conflicting to the DCU. And for your information, The supreme being in vertigo was shaped by outside forces. PResence anyone? Nuff said. ONe more thing, Vertigo is an imprint of DC. Elseworlds is printed directly under the DC imprint. NOT the same thing AT ALL.
But if Hypertime makes everything Cannon then how can not being mentioned in it not make Vertigo Cannon as well.
Oh wait that is right because it doesn't. Just like World's funniest.
And Vertigo still has you know Spectre in it nut once agai nnot everything pans out to cannon.
I keep trying to make this stick that vertigo is a part of DC and has been referenced a lot in DC and Vice Versa yet not everything in Vertigo is Cannon to DC despite the idea of Hypertime.
So once again until it gets referenced by an actual cannon DC story then it is nothing more than a nice comic.
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You basicaly are trying to FORCE your view upon events while Else Worlds have been made canon twice by dc and backed by Mark waid and grant morrison in interviews. your Opinion is thus, invalid. Every else worlds story, every publication put out by DC is a reality unto itself and canon.
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