Ok where to begin. His personal fields are his personal tech. So they are fair play as far as I am concerned.
Omega who was stated on panel as dwarfing Galactus power. It took him several minutes to wade through his fields. Thanos survives this blast easily as a Monitor shield easily did as well.
He took her blasts and hurt her physically first. Then he raped the mind.
Thanos is the guy standing while Drax is on his back.
Nothing says that they're constantly up and the fact that Thanos makes a point of noting that he had put them up implies they're not a standard part of his arsenal.
The blast was only building sized. I don't deny that with the time Thanos had spent preping for the fight he could take a blast from Galactus or such but that clearly wasn't the limit of Omega's power.
Exactly. He couldn't beat her in a physical contest so he mindraped her instead.
They're clearly not on an exploded planet in that scene.
Hearsay. That feat is completely off panel and unless you accept SquirrelGirl you can't use it without applying a double standard.
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Nah. SBP and The guardian had each other in each others grips. SBP couldn't break free of the gaurdian's grip either. which is fine since gaurdians are teh uber.
He used them in combat. Prove they werent. The burden of proof is on you as I have him on panel using these shields in combat.
Again Omega who was trying to blast through the field couldnt do it immediately. His power is stated on panel by 2 characters as greater than Galactus. He is surviving the universal blast as did the Monitor's shield.
He hurt her. He had her on her knees. He didnt want her killed. Context. Not that he couldnt but if he killed her it would release her godly essence. Did you read the arc at all?
Its a planetary explosion and he survived it easily. Making it more than a mere laughable continent.
Prove it didnt happen. You do realize she is a reality warper. And prove sg's defeat of Thanos is canon. Tell me what happened as I believe anything could have happened as its off panel.
You mean besides shielding earth from the life force of the gaurdian. Which was a power that dwarfed Superboy primes own. The same power that allowed SBP to literally punch thru to the fifth and grab mxy? A classic rogue gaurdian bitched hal jordan with great ease. The guardians created the alpha gaurdians, who are superior to the GL's. A guardian actually survived the anti matter touch with only burns.
Again a guardian bfr'd Prime which hardly qualifies as surpassing his own power. If the guardian would have defeated him then imo you would have something. But he simply died bfring him and miscalculated.
Prime caught Mxy unaware,had help depowering him,and was powerful before the powerup. So of course him gaining this powerup would make him a lot more powerful.
Hal Jordan is just a top tier. I think prime could best him as well. So again I think its safe to say I am not impressed with the evidnce thayou have brought forth imo.
If someone demonstrates the power to call upon shielding on panel we take it as is unless you can prove it isnt his standard tech.
A planetary explosion. More than a continent was destroyed as proven on panel. This was Thanos at his weakest and he was fine. I dont know exactly how much of the planet was destroyed but it seems that it was much more than a continent imo.
I proved it by my scan. You can continue to be difficult and say it didnt happen but the scan clearly proved it did. Unless you can prove that the statements made this character was a lie its been proven that it happened.
It took the infinite power of the speed force to bfr prime before. So you tell me, who else could bfr prime? And you forget the guardian's grib was so strong that prime in fear couldn't break free. So um yeah, the gaurdian was more powerful. And It just amazes me how when you try to demean mxy, you use prime as the example. But when you try to demean prime, you use the circumstances of how prime caught mxy. you are so very irksome. I mean REALLY REALLY. And prime didn't have the power to get to mxy before the power up. hell, mxy and monarch comment on the amp. Hal jordan isn't just a top tier. He's at the top of the heap along with Superman. And Prime broke hal's arm. A gaurdian never let hal even get a shot fired off. By infinitely stretching hal's arm at faster than light speeds. do you understand what that means? of course you don't. let me explain it. the gaurdian showed extreme reality or matter manipulation powers. Being able to infinitely stretch hal's arm. And then he did it at faster than light speeds and reactions. to beat the beam itself. As far as you not being impressed, Who the hell cares. nothing impresses you but the size of thanos's jewels.
He had time to prep and acquire the shields specifically for the fight. You have to prove the positive statement that he usually has access to them.
You seem to be missing the point. It doesn't even seem that Thanos was on the planet at all.
Your scan proved that someone thinks she does. He doesn't have to be lying he could simply have been lied to or fooled. Unless you have a scan showing Maker using a planet busting power you have nothing, it's no different from any other off panel hearsay.
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Two different things entirely. She simply shut down them with her reality warping powers. But we dont know how hungry Galactus was,etc. Maker didnt defeat a character she simply used her reality warping powers.
Again Prime has been bfr'd twice. The Guardian simply rid this uniervse of him but set him loose into the multiverse more powerful than he had been before while at the same time killing himself to only further power him up moreso.
I disagree. I feel that Prime did have the power to get him beforehand. Now whether or not he could have broken into the fifth dimension without his powerup is still up in the air but he still needed Annataz and him offguard to accomplish this anways.
If Hal Jordan isnt a top tier what is he? Again he may be a powerful or formidable top tier but that doesnt mean he is at Monarch's,Thanos',or Prime's level so as far as I am concerned breaking his arm isnt that impressive imo.
I am simply giving you my opinion on these matters. Take it or leave it.
So any time a character has prep time what they do in battle doesnt count? Huh? Thanos has put up his shielding before and has access to that and teleportation it seems when he has his standard tech so how can you not count this? It seems you are trying really hard to take away something from Thanos here imo.
It was explained that a planetary explosion weakned Drax and made Thanos the victor during their battle.
She is a reality warper and has infinite power. I have a scan that says she has infinite power at the beginning of the book when they the writers are getting everyone caught up to speed. Prove he was incorrect in his assumption that she shut it down.
Do you have scan proving he usually has access to three separate personal forcefields? If not you have to assume that he specifically got more shielding because he knew about the fight.
Their fight blew up the planet then?
Prove it on panel with something other than hearsay. If your claim is true it shouldn't be that hard.
Prove the positive assertion that he is correct.
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Even inspite of prime being physically stronger,faster and vastly more durable then Norin what kind of weakness is there to exploit....is SS going to even be able to react fast enough th exploit this phantom weakness ur claiming. If anything prime would beat SS in as easy a fashion as Thanos and perhaps even quicker, taking his speed and physical strength into account especially with the guardian upgrade there is nothing SS could do to even make it debatatble.
1. So he didn't destroy them under his base power now? He destroyed two at once actually, and in the process shifted Oa from the center of the universe. Thor with PG has no strength feats that equal that either, sooooooo.
2. No it isn't, not if you can do it with pure physical strength and the other person did it through easier means such as energy blasts. Surfer can't even amp his strength to Thanos level let alone SMP's. It's not arguable at all, SMP could rip SS in half.
3. Yeah, but the Guardian did not hold him down or overpower him like you are trying to lead people to believe. Last comic scan SMP was physically dominating the Guardian. The Guardian was already in the process of exploding on SMP, he had no time to move.
I dont have to assume anything like that. I assume he can use multiple shielding when he wants to. He needed it and used it. The multiple shielding bought him enough time to accomplish his goal here.
From the picture it looks like at least half of the planet was blown up as a result of their battle. Making it more impressive than a continental destroying blast imo.
It was stated on panel. If we go with your statements then we believe nothing unless we see it happen on panel. So the burden of proof falls on you to prove he was incorrect in his assessment of the situation.
I dont think its proven that Prime is faster. The Surfer can go just as fast as the speed of light if not faster. Red solar energy affects him. It took Prime some time to beat on Ion as well and he is nothing special imo. Surfer by feats>>>>>Ion by feats. So I think this will be a prolonged battle and one in which the Surfer could win due to Prime's red solar energy weakness.
Thanos beats Surfer very quickly but it takes Prime time and even after Ion was affected by his daxamite weakness he still recovered and wasnt beaten as quickly as Thanos beats the Surfer. Also Thanos doesnt have any weaknesses like Prime has that the Surfer can exploit.
With the guardian upgrade it isnt close but this should be prime at his base vs Surfer at his base. Why give Prime a powerup and not the Surfer? Thor before he got the power gem beat the Surfer. With the power gem he crushed the Surfer,the Watch,and Strange. Thor doesnt have to destroy a planet to prove he is powerful because he destroyed a planet destroyer by himself before he even got the power gem.
When has Prime ripped anyone comparable to the Surfer in half? It took him time to beat Ion who was a rookie in every sense of the word.
The guardian prevented him from escaping which he wanted to escape this situation. You claimed that Prime didnt let go of the guardian and I enlightened you with a scan showing you him scream for help like a newborn child. One guardian bfr'd him easily and he could do nothing to avoid it.
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