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Wow, fangirl, just when I thought you wouldn't get any worse....

There aren't even close to one thousand pieces coming at her on panel, let alone many thousands. There's maybe 100 pieces there. And once more, there simply is nothing suggesting they are going faster than light. I'm sure they're not going slow, but to say they're FTL and so is WW is just plain silly. If the pieces are all over the universe as you keep saying, then there is a good possibility that those fewer than a hundred pieces would have been in the same area as her.

Now that you've had the difference explained to you multiple times now, please stop assuming that your speculations are fact. Wondy would be lucky to hit lightspeed in combat, much less many times faster than it. Artistic style is not a measure of speed, its just something that looks cool. smile
Wow! Good post. thumb up


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Wonder Woman is not faster than light. Fangirl's name describes herself perfectly.


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Wonder Woman is not faster than light. Fangirl's name describes herself perfectly.

Then just how did she breach the Speed Force on her own? Hmm? how did she deflect all those light shards from the shattered God? She certainly has FTL reflexes easily.


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Wow! Good post. thumb up

Only a simple minded person would think that the Shattered God only had a hundred pieces of himself scattered Across the Universe. Then it would be even more simple to think that he wasn't pulling himself back together at far greater than C. It would take thousands of years to pull himself back together at C. Also, let's just say it were only 100 pieces of him like some suggest. These are sentient parts of him that would repeatedly keep coming back again and again. So it really wasn't a good post. It wasn't well thought out. It wasn't anything really.


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Fangirl, have you ever considered not posting the same tired and defeated argument in a thread until its close? You're not even worth debating with, you've made it clear time and time again that no matter what logic and evidence say, your opinion is fact.


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Fangirl, have you ever considered not posting the same tired and defeated argument in a thread until its close? You're not even worth debating with, you've made it clear time and time again that no matter what logic and evidence say, your opinion is fact.


And so damn ignorant, thats why shes/hes on my ignore list.


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And so damn ignorant, thats why shes/hes on my ignore list.

You act as if me being on your ignore list is in any way shape or form, hurting me.


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Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Fangirl, have you ever considered not posting the same tired and defeated argument in a thread until its close? You're not even worth debating with, you've made it clear time and time again that no matter what logic and evidence say, your opinion is fact.

And have you ever read the story? No. What you are saying is that he wasn't pulling himself back together are far greater than C. In the beginning of the FREAKING Story he is shown, starting to pull himself back together from around the universe. How does one pull an infinite amount of shards back together at the speed of sound. Because that's basically what you are saying. Instead of you arguing tha ti"m wrong, how about you argue that you are correct. Give a plausible theory as to way he could pull himself from the farthest corners of the universe at far less than C. Ready set go.


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And have you ever read the story? No. What you are saying is that he wasn't pulling himself back together are far greater than C. In the beginning of the FREAKING Story he is shown, starting to pull himself back together from around the universe. How does one pull an infinite amount of shards back together at the speed of sound. Because that's basically what you are saying. Instead of you arguing tha ti"m wrong, how about you argue that you are correct. Give a plausible theory as to way he could pull himself from the farthest corners of the universe at far less than C. Ready set go.
Or you know you could look at the fact it is a comic book, and writers don't always look at teh total context of a feat before writing it.

You know how many characters would have far better reflexes then what they actually do if you take some random exotic feat and broke it down to far.

I can remember Quicksilver literally removing all the pins from an angry mob without them even knowing he did it. We are talking a huge, huge mob. Quicksilver literally searched everybody, and removed the pins without a trace of him doing so.

Does that mean Quicksilver is now a lightspeeder capable of moving and reacting at multiples the speed of light?


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Or you know you could look at the fact it is a comic book, and writers don't always look at teh total context of a feat before writing it.

You know how many characters would have far better reflexes then what they actually do if you take some random exotic feat and broke it down to far.



I can remember Quicksilver literally removing all the pins from an angry mob without them even knowing he did it. We are talking a huge, huge mob. Quicksilver literally searched everybody, and removed the pins without a trace of him doing so.

Does that mean Quicksilver is now a lightspeeder capable of moving and reacting at multiples the speed of light?

I dont' want to hear that BS. really. Thor lifted the midgard serpent and is automatically given an uber strength feat. The weight of the snake is never mentioned.

Superman flew from vega to earth in minutes. The speed is never mentioned. It's still a feat.

But when it comes to wonder woman, she has to have the quantifiable listed?

Well I want a quantifiable measure of energy listed everytime the surfer does something uber.

And an exotic feat would be something far outside of the character's abilities. Tell me, what is the range of speed and reflexes that Wondy caps at?


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I dont' want to hear that BS. really. Thor lifted the midgard serpent and is automatically given an uber strength feat. The weight of the snake is never mentioned.

Superman flew from vega to earth in minutes. The speed is never mentioned. It's still a feat.

But when it comes to wonder woman, she has to have the quantifiable listed?

Well I want a quantifiable measure of energy listed everytime the surfer does something uber.

And an exotic feat would be something far outside of the character's abilities. Tell me, what is the range of speed and reflexes that Wondy caps at?


So since they don't list the weight of the serphant then i guess since they don't list how fast the bits of light were traveling it doesn't hold water i guess.

You can't dismiss one feat for the same reason another works.

You just trtolling then.

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So since they don't list the weight of the serphant then i guess since they don't list how fast the bits of light were traveling it doesn't hold water i guess.

You can't dismiss one feat for the same reason another works.

You just trtolling then.

You missed the point didn't you. One can look at the serpent and tell that it was huge and causing gravitational rifts. So we know that it was very heavy. Likely around a quarter of the earth's weight.

One can look at Wondy's scan and see that she is reflecting light particles being pulled from around the universe. The only way that can happen is if they are moving faster than C.

I didnt' dismiss either. On the contrary, I gave examples of this board's double standard. next time, pay attention.


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You missed the point didn't you. One can look at the serpent and tell that it was huge and causing gravitational rifts. So we know that it was very heavy. Likely around a quarter of the earth's weight.

One can look at Wondy's scan and see that she is reflecting light particles being pulled from around the universe. The only way that can happen is if they are moving faster than C.

I didnt' dismiss either. On the contrary, I gave examples of this board's double standard. next time, pay attention.


It is simple math

Thor weighs 640pds. at 6.6

Well will round down to 100pds per foot.


The midgarud sepherent is long enough to touch it tail around earth.

earth is 7926miles around.

5280 feet per mile.

Thats would make it 41849280 feet long.

it fight thor it is mount no probelm and is much wider then thor so this makes him heavy per foot then thor but we will use thor as a base model for weight.

Which means it should way more.

so it is 48149280 feet time 100 pounds.

thats 4814928000 pouns which divided by 2000 which is equal to one ton

makes thor lifting 2092464 tons.

You can't compare the too feets at all.

KNow if they gave you how mnay shards she block and how fast each shard was moving then you could you are playing devil's advocate

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It is simple math

Thor weighs 640pds. at 6.6

Well will round down to 100pds per foot.


The midgarud sepherent is long enough to touch it tail around earth.

earth is 7926miles around.

5280 feet per mile.

Thats would make it 41849280 feet long.

it fight thor it is mount no probelm and is much wider then thor so this makes him heavy per foot then thor but we will use thor as a base model for weight.

Which means it should way more.

so it is 48149280 feet time 100 pounds.

thats 4814928000 pouns which divided by 2000 which is equal to one ton

makes thor lifting 2092464 tons.

You can't compare the too feets at all.

KNow if they gave you how mnay shards she block and how fast each shard was moving then you could you are playing devil's advocate


well, He was scattered around the universe. I'd wager it was thousands at the bare minimum.


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well, He was scattered around the universe. I'd wager it was thousands at the bare minimum.


It is definty a speed feet for sure but it is hard to say how fast.


I not down playing the spped feet but faster then light moving like that she should whoop on supes everyday of the week.

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It is definty a speed feet for sure but it is hard to say how fast.


I not down playing the spped feet but faster then light moving like that she should whoop on supes everyday of the week.

She's never fought Superman for real. And He's never fought her for real. And Superman can move far far far faster than light.


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She's never fought Superman for real. And He's never fought her for real. And Superman can move far far far faster than light.


Ya but is we go by this feet WW> in speed then supes.

I think it is more of a feet FTL relexes then combat speed.

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Ya but is we go by this feet WW> in speed then supes.

I think it is more of a feet FTL relexes then combat speed.
Her reflexes definitely play a part. But It's her speed, she actually has to move herself in front of the light because of the many directions that it's coming from.


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Her reflexes definitely play a part. But It's her speed, she actually has to move herself in front of the light because of the many directions that it's coming from.


Very true but not much of a combat feet now the feet were you should her punch that guy sa number of times that was a nice impressive feet for her. combat wise.

Could should run around a personal like that a fihgt sure but she hasn't show that in combat she is more of a head to head brawler more like supes.

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Very true but not much of a combat feet now the feet were you should her punch that guy sa number of times that was a nice impressive feet for her. combat wise.

Could should run around a personal like that a fihgt sure but she hasn't show that in combat she is more of a head to head brawler more like supes.

I think it's within her and Superman's abilities to fight like that. I don't think they do that for fear of killing someone.

check the speed section on this page.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t495714.html


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