Well by my reckoning, Kain's spells, while awesome and powerful, are only devastating and one shots on regular characters. When fighting Kratos, it would be considered a boss to boss fight, so his powers wouldn't be nearly as effective as they would against others. You're giving too much to Kain and not enough to Kratos.
Ime not sure about speed, I think he would have to hit them , but he could just use soul rip or some other power to drain souls. he has manipulated souls before on another level/dimesnion when he snared souls out of the underwolrd and placed them into the bodies of his vampire sons, its safe to say those Hades souls are not likely going to be a problem
Titles are simply titles, not a "context" of limits.
His role is to balance the power of magic, but one of his powers is to regulate, just because a security guards job is to secure the area, does not mean he cannot become corrupt, cannot use his weapon (gun or truncheon?) to do ill...its not physically impossible or mentally for him to do so.
Boss is simply a gameplay term, gameplay mechanics are not taken into account in VS debates, nor would it be logical to take the limits of gamepaly for the sake of fun and balancei in a game as manifestations in an actual real life battle.
Ive not given anything to either of them, Kain has all these powers, its not my fault most of Kratos' are too slow or ineffective.
Yeh right, first hes going to have to catch Kain, with Kain being physically faster, able to become mist and teleporting, thats not going to happen, and thats if Kain doesnt just TK him over on his ass.
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Faster? I've played LoK and Kain is slow.
Mist? He could use a tornado, possibly creating a vortex. And while in mist form he CAN be hurt.
Teleportion probably wouldn't be a big thing.
TK? Kratos stones him or shocks him. Oh wait, Kain won't be able to TK Kratos who's about 50-100 feet tall. Ripping souls are gameplay, and well Kratos is too strong, and he would have to weaken him. And like TGE said:
And where exactly did it say that Kain had unlimited power?
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oh really? he can teleport out of range of Kratos just like that...or within range to cast a spell, he could wipe the floor with kratos using this power.
false and a lie, Kratos at full size is the only way he could escape Kains TK.
What TGE said is a bullshit line similiar to most of his other arguments, LOK bosses are indeed gameplay, and the fact the power excists in gameplay is no bearing on the fact it has canon documentation and Kain himself stating what it can do which is not gameplay.
Ive shown you Kains magic regulation before, youll find it on most of the newer Kain threads.
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He has shown to be slow for what I have seen.
Blood Omen 2-Kain was able to get hurt in mist form.
Ares teleported... and how can he attack Kratos FAR away? Kratos could use Zeus' Fury or Hades' Souls.
What is a lie? He could stone him, and he could shock him. Can't Kain fight TK?
Show me where he stated this, it can only be used on a weakened person, and aparently it didn't work on Elder God, so I doubt he could rip the soul of someone as durable and big as Kratos.
And since when are we using Blood omen 2 Kain in this fight?
Zeus thunderbolts are little bolts of unkown feat, Hades souls vs a guy with a soul devouring sword? please....weve bee through this.
I dont think anyone can fight TK, you can only try and defendfrom it I think. And its a lie that
Ime not even bothering to find the information again because ive shown it 100 times, if you cant be bothered to look at any of my evidence then why should I bother, heres a nie little idea, show me a reason why a spell that is affecting a beings soul which is nothing to do with durability or size should not affect Kratos? give me a reason why size and durability means anything to a spell not touching those things? ....you wont be able to because its BS, its a poor mans argument for trying to defend against one of kains ridiculously overpowered spells.
yeh which means we would use the strongest version available.
The bloody sword he uses is raziel, and wtf? hundreds of souls? Hades souls summons about 4/5 souls....
He didnt even try and use it on Elder God, and Elder God is bigger than all the Titans put together so dont try and make any comparisons that you dont know about. And you did not read my last post, so ime not going to answer your next if you fail to read it. size/durability=irrelvent to his soul
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But I made the thread
Not meant literally...
1 Titan is bigger than the Empire State Building, so don't tell me he is bigger. Like I said, he couldn't rip Elder God's soul, aparently[like said]you don't like to listen, the only thing it could do is weaken Elder God, and stop thinking it can rip everyone's soul. And Kratos still pops his head.
yeh you did, so? you want to use the weakest Kain just to allow Kratos a win? lol.....
No a Titan is bigger than that, id say that Zeus is probably nearly as big as the Empire state building and as weve been shown, Titans could hold a god in his hand. Elder God is larger than a continent. Why would a continental entity who eats souls himself have a soul? also the sword rips souls, plain and simple, if Elder God did not instantly die then obviously it has no soul, thing is.....Kratos has zero resistance to soul powers.
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I don't see the reasoning in your theory. It's obvious that this Elder God himself has a soul and to continuously feed his power or maintain it, grow stronger etc. he feasts on other souls. So when this blade that is meant to rip soul(s) (I'm sure it is intentionally meant to reap only one soul at a time) what is the logical thing that happened is when it did slice, it reaped a previous soul he had in his possession. (or several to a few) but not HIS, the Elder God's own Soul was touched. He just used other ones he's eaten to buffer and block it.
That's pretty obvious.
idk about Kratos and soul resistance. There are usually three factors. Spiritual Power (magic, etc, I guess you can say the 'soul') Physical power (muscles, strength) and Life. (something people don't think about) Tapping into one's own life line, their source of living which is even more unexplainable then a soul. What gives something...life...where does that source come from...you can tap into that to buffer and resist attacks on one's soul for a while from past multiple stories I've read.
None the less, it isn't infinite and would drain the one doing so fast.
No not at all, the Elder God is an entity we know little to nothing about, we dont know it has a soul and its never hinted, the thing feeds of souls, thats true and then spins them in the wheel of fate and creates a new life. Thats never been stated the case either, the reaver eats the soul of the being it stabs, theres no logic in thinking just because the Elder God eats souls Kains sword just happened to drain the last soul the Elder God ate, thats not how anything has been stated to work. Your just assuming and inventing stories.
To me and probably you, not to Gumachi
If he has no resistance to having his soul ripped then he has no resistance, end of story, how durable his skin is means nothing, how much magic energy he has means nothing, fact is, Kratos has never resisted soul ripping and even the Titans could not resist it who are far larger and durable than Kratos.
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And? Foolish points... *sigh*
No he isn't. Gaia is as big as ESB[said by Sony]and Zeus isn't even as big as Gaia. Ummm, like I said it could only weaken him, what makes you think it didn't have a soul? "Eats soul" I'm shure he has a soul. Unless he can live w/o one. Yeah, after they weaken him. Kain--stoned... He pops the little grape, end of story.
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Zeus is about a 5/6th the size of a Titan if that, and when did sony say that, source?
Because its a multidimentional being that is both spectoral and physical, technically it cant be a soul if its physical in both planes at the same time. Stones him? hes not got the range, pops him? with what? feats that hes never shown...yeh...no m8...no
unlikely
With what? are you trying to use one of TGE "lolz he resistz cos he has strong arms and is durables!" arguments of fail? lol....
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