You are too caught up in glossing over the meaning of feats and speaking on sentiment. I'm sorry, but speed is NOT like strength. You can theoretically fight someone far stronger than you in comics by fighting smart. But if you don't have the requisite reflexes to tag someone faster than you, than you are not winning, period.
BA has the feats to say Thor would be a slug to him (including a high end speed Thor), this is fact. Saying 'Marvel doesn't portray its heralds like DC does'...is supposed to mean what? Is there some sort of treatise written in place where DC and Marvel characters that are arbitrarily decided to be on the 'same tier' (since there is no official, canon way to do this cross company.) are supposed to have close fights in hypothetical threads?
Like I said, this is arguing with sentiment. Your statement basically say that 'its unfair to Marvel characters since they don't have feats like that'...so we are supposed to tone DC characters DOWN for the sake of Marvel? Why? Because it 'doesn't feel right', to say one popular character stomps another popular character, even if the feats give a viable, objective platform for arguing that outcome? Tough Luck. If anything, the only 'unfairness' is not allowing the characters that have the superior abilities, access to the meaning of their abilities, just for the sake of trying to make a level fight. Why does a Thor vs Black Adam fight HAVE to be close, if Thor can't match the speed? You can't even say 'that's just one attribute', because that attribute is a huge one, and the gap within is huge.
It's arguments like this that continue to reaffirm to me why powersets are the BEST way to debate, since its the closest route to being truly objective and it is the most consistent.
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Last edited by CosmicComet on May 11th, 2012 at 01:38 AM
The rules aren't faulty simply because you don't like them.
This isn't "random joe with black adam's powers vs random joe with thor's powers" in this thread.
It's Thor and Black Adam, and both men behave in character. That's how these debates go. If you want to debate powersets, then do it in a tourney. Or another board.
He just used a trap to catch a girl, nothing important about it. Batman has stopped a speeding impulse by catching his hair. Does that makes batman a speedster or someone who can respond to speedsters? Absolutely not. You mean lasers and stuff which street levelers react to daily basis?
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