Last time they fought they were pretty even. Although Thor had a wound, he was also a bloodlusted maniac out for the kill. Surfer on the other hand didn't seem like he wanted to fight at all. He even showed genuine concern for Thor mid-fight.
Kitty fused him into the ground. Fused. Which means that even had he blown the stuff off him, it would still be inside him. He used matter manip. In Hulk's case where he has a healing factor, his body self repaired and expelled the foreign content from himself. In Thor's case he did it with Mjolnir through matter manip. Keep hating though. That's all your good for anyway.
He doesn't fight near mountains in order to actually be able to do it. But his bare fists are often and have often been attributed to mountain shattering, let alone Mjolnir.
Keep dancing around what was shown on panel, it's ok. The Hulk incident proved you dont' need matter manip to escape being phased.
As depicted on panel, he superheated the floor/ground and he escaped. I would have thought the explosion of rock, the smoldering crater and the glassification present would have been proof for even the staunchest fanboy.
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What was shown on panel is exactly what I told you. The Hulk incident is completely different, as different ways were being used to escape the fusion.
Of course he did. So? For his body to have been freed of the debris which were now fused inside of him, super heating the exterior of his body would not heal the gaping wounds that would have been left. Unless you think super heating something heals and mends. Which in your case, you probably do.
I always thought Thor had a higher ceiling of power. Like, I don't think Surfer could recreate Thor's showing against Mercy.
It's hard to argue with the speed edge that Surfer should have though. There are ways, of course...multi or omni-directional lightning (we can be relatively sure it could tag even a speeding Surfer). Or a more general energy siphon (it doesn't just absorb individual blasts, properly focused), but then we also have to allow for some creativity from Surfer during those tactics.
I always tended to side with Thor for the majority. But, more than that, I always furrowed my brow in confusion at anyone who painted it as something other than a near-coin-flip scenario. It's ok to have a side, but keeping opinions within reason is just as important...especially when there's no actual winner here.
Right. So explain the exploding sidewalk, why it was smoldering, and the glassification at Thor's feet. I'll wait.
Show me Thor busting a planet. I don't recall that ever happening. I think there are actually scans out there of Surfer destroying a planet. We saw that his fight with Morg wrecked an entire solar system.
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Kitty phased Thor's entire lower half into the ground and bonded him with it. Your argument is that no molecule manipulation was used. So okay, he used heat and whatever bullshit to break the pavement.
Now what about himself? His entire lower half would be more concrete then flesh, how is he still alive much less completely undamaged?
I already told you what happened she phased him inside the ground. Thor's flesh and bone are 3xs more dense (according to handbooks but on panel probably a LOT more than that) than a human beings. His body would fight off the effect of having it solidify in another object, exactly like Hulk's did.
What we saw ON PANEL was him creating an energy vortex, the ground got hot, it burst, and he got out.
How do we know this?
a) The ground exploded.
b) The ground was smoldering.
c) Glassification occured beneath his feet.
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May 1st, 2013 12:58 AM
The Hulk incident is completely different, as different ways were being used to escape the fusion. 
