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psycho gundam
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h/p doomsday is the character in this thread and that arc itself starts with this very concept being passed around here utterly failing

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did pak write for doomsday?

you guys don't even seem to understand the very characters you debate; it took a murderous robot to toss doomsday into space, the real superman wouldn't even do that. coming back isn't even the first hurdle, the first hurdle is the hero bfr'ing their opponent to begin with. it's a rare tactic that isn't even sound 90% of the time

You missed the part where he tried to BFR but Doomsday was to fast for him during DOS.....In DD Wars and H/P he was also BFR'd


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psycho gundam
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so bfr doesn't work. go figure.

you originally said that there was a lot of bad fighting along the coarse of wwh, so you clearly meant things aside from bfr. have at it


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
h/p doomsday is the character in this thread and that arc itself starts with this very concept being passed around here utterly failing

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Ah, I see what you're saying.

Without plot to help the character, BFR into the blackness of space is very much an option. Strange could've teleported Hulk into a star for goodness sake or simply teleported him into the middle of this:

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Where Hulk would've floated like this:

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Until it was time to retrieve him.

You're thinking to inside the box, and using plot too much to help Hulk (go figure). If they had wanted to BFR him, he'd have been BFR'd and that's where he'd have stayed. Whether it be in empty space, or a burning star doesn't really matter. Unless of course a passing group of aliens decided to take a stroll several light years into black space to see what they could find? erm


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psycho gundam
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can you find an instance where that tactic didn't eventually fall to pieces? he get's teleported back to civilization by the same characters he threatened to kill right before that. hilariously thanos didn't even stay gone for the entire page

yes, comics have plot lawl. are you serious?

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h/p doomsday is the character in this thread and that arc itself starts with this very concept being passed around here utterly failing

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can you find an instance where that tactic didn't eventually fall to pieces?

yes, comics have plot lawl. are you serious?


I'm not interested enough to even try to be honest.

Cute thumb up You know exactly what I'm saying.


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psycho gundam
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I'm not interested enough to even try to be honest.

Cute thumb up You know exactly what I'm saying.
thumb up thanks for the thanos scan btw, it was beyond perfect


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thumb up thanks for the thanos scan btw, it was beyond perfect


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by psycho gundam
can you find an instance where that tactic didn't eventually fall to pieces? he get's teleported back to civilization by the same characters he threatened to kill right before that. hilariously thanos didn't even stay gone for the entire page

yes, comics have plot lawl. are you serious?



Point = missed. That didn't have to happen at all. It happened because Thanos was going to help battle a bigger threat. Hulk was the threat. He'd stay in place for as long the Illuminati wanted him to stay.

Trying to pass off the tactic as invalid or whatever gibberish your saying because the BFR'd victims don't stay stranded for years at a time or something is pretty ridiculous.

so yeah:

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Let that sink in instead.


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long story short:

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your business here is done, damborgson

when i come back i want to hear from estaculo about the other wwh things he mentioned.


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It's bit weird to hear that Bfr will eventually fall. It is a petty excuse because, eventually a high majority of character will return no matter what method of battlefield removal was used. Why? hello, is called a business. Fact is, sending wwh to space would have been a good plan but the story/author would not allow it.


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
long story short:


your business here is done, damborgson

when i come back i want to hear from estaculo about the other wwh things he mentioned.



I'm sure acting like there's nothing else to reply to makes you feel special, but what you're doing, it's just running away. You haven't proven your point or...responded to the new post I put up. But if putting up a pic of your fave character and trying to be cute makes you feel like you achieved something maybe I'll try it too:

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Your business here is done, PG.

Later.


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It's bit weird to hear that Bfr will eventually fall. It is a petty excuse because, eventually a high majority of character will return no matter what method of battlefield removal was used. Why? hello, is called a business. Fact is, sending wwh to space would have been a good plan but the story/author would not allow it.
umm that's what i'm saying. even in hand picked instances, shit even on the same page as one the character that was banished was recalled immediately cause he was needed, just like how the hulk was.

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I'm sure acting like there's nothing else to reply to makes you feel special, but what you're doing, it's just running away. You haven't proven your point or...responded to the new post I put up. But if putting up a pic of your fave character and trying to be cute makes you feel like you achieved something maybe I'll try it too:

Your business here is done, PG.

Later.
you're just acting catty now

"we're" not arguing that's why. i understand that you are trying to push that a guy unable to move or teleport in space will be stranded by definition, that's fine, but i am telling you that it's not permanent cause of plot or that the character isn't truly deserving of an indefinite sentence of solitude. it just doesn't happen. i don't even know why you are still on it when someone else just brought it up as a deflection from something more debatable.


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[B]umm that's what i'm saying. even in hand picked instances, shit even on the same page as one the character that was banished was recalled immediately cause he was needed, just like how the hulk was.
Except, there are instances where BFRing of any kind works. Nothing in comics is permanent, so sending WWH into space and leaving him there is just as viable as any other BFR like those done to Superboy-Prime, DD, and many others. Why? Because eventually, every villian, every hero will come despite the fact that they were send to god knows where, or even if they died. That is why WWH was not thrown into space. The story would be stupid confused


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psycho gundam
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you seem to be contradicting yourself a bit there. you said bfr works but that the guy comes back anyway....

like it or not, plot matters. if it wasn't for bfr wwh wouldn't even have happened so this argument is a mess from conception


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you seem to be contradicting yourself a bit there. you said bfr works but that the guy comes back anyway....

That's not a contradiction. Because whatever method one uses, even death, that character will come back. Thus BFR works, just like death. Regardless, what one does, the character will eventually come back


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you're just acting catty now

"we're" not arguing that's why. i understand that you are trying to push that a guy unable to move or teleport in space will be stranded by definition, that's fine, but i am telling you that it's not permanent cause of plot or that the character isn't truly deserving of an indefinite sentence of solitude. it just doesn't happen. i don't even know why you are still on it when someone else just brought it up as a deflection from something more debatable.


You think I'm being catty? thumb up for over sensitivity. There's no spite towards you intended. Sorry if you're taking it that way or if I'm giving that impression....

Yes "we" are. You replied first, and I continued.

I understand that, what you don't seem to understand is that Hulk being put into space isn't a permanent thing. From what I've gathered, you're arguing that BFR simply isn't an option because sooner or later, something will come along and change it. Well no shit. Of course the Illuminati wouldn't just leave the Hulk there and it'd be the end of Hulk. But it is an option and it's one that was intentionally not used in order to keep the story going. Completely understandable. But it was indeed an option that would have been more than viable to get rid of the Hulk. Just like putting him in a star would've been. The plot couldn't have that which is why it's perfectly understandable that it didn't happen, I get that, but as far Hulk getting picked up by some aliens or floating onto some planet, that's just not happening had Strange or the others not wanted it to. In the end it's irrelevant I guess.

I don't care what others are saying. I'm only responding to you. thumb up to whoever brought up a good point or whatever.


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*Chuckle* You people are so petty....and tiny......


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It says no BFR, end of discussion.

And BFR did work on Doomsday, twice.

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They tried to bfr Red She Rulk and she punched her way back through dimensions (and Hulk/Banner knew bfring her wouldn't work). BFR isn't an ace in the whole imo, especially against beings like Hulk and Doomsday.

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