Wait, why can't someone be better then the one who made them? Remembering it's all relative that means you can never fundamentally be equal to or better then ones parents. And another thing, if a creator is perfect, then what is created HAS to be perfect, it can only be flawed if the perfect creator wants it to be. But we are flawed. This means either God is not perfect, or he wanted us to be flawed.
Also, we are meant to be made in God's image, inherently that seems to suggest a great deal of potential, but God's a bit of a dictator if he gave us potential, but intentionally made sure we couldn't climb to high.
Also, I must admit it is hard to respect, or think much good of something that
lets not forget he'll work overtime to break youI thought he was all loving and understanding. That phrase makes me think of him being jealous and vindictive.
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Wait, why can't someone be better then the one who made them? Remembering it's all relative that means you can never fundamentally be equal to or better then ones parents. And another thing, if a creator is perfect, then what is created HAS to be perfect, it can only be flawed if the perfect creator wants it to be. But we are flawed. This means either God is not perfect, or he wanted us to be flawed.Also, we are meant to be made in God's image, inherently that seems to suggest a great deal of potential, but God's a bit of a dictator if he gave us potential, but intentionally made sure we couldn't climb to high.
He is perfect. We are flawed because, we think for ourselves.
God mad ethe parents that made you aswell, so yeah you can't be better, than you're creators creator.
Originally posted by Superman 24
He is perfect. We are flawed because, we think for ourselves.God mad ethe parents that made you aswell, so yeah you can't be better, than you're creators creator.
Ergo free will is the source of our flaws. But it is still a feature given to us by God, which means that he intended for us to have it, and if he is all knowing then he knew that it would lead to us being flawed. Thus he knew and intended for his greatest creation to be flawed, and chose not to find a way to cir-cum navigate that, which theoretically would be easy for him as he is all powerful...
oh lord..............two more kids who can't seem to grasp the concept or understand the content of this post.........
1. I do exist. There is no debate about the subject. It can be proven over and over again. For an airplane ticket and a small fee, I can prove it to you face to face.2. I have created life. There can be no debate on the subject. A simple DNA test can prove so.
3. I don't tell people how to live. I do what I think is right without trying to force my morality onto others via threats of damnation and the like.
4. I don't pretend to be all powerful. I have my limits and accept them.
5. I admit to doing everything I do, good or bad. I don't pretend to be the cause of all that is good yet pass off blame onto others if something I do is interpreted as being bad to others.
6. I give people a choice. I don't demand they worship me, although they are certainly welcome to if they wish. I will never tell others, "thou shalt have no other Evil Dead's before me"...as a matter of fact, I don't Command anything from them.
discuss.
my original post.......this kid's reply......
1. Are you high or something? If you were god, Whats my last name? Didnt think so.2. Youre an impostor and a phony. You cant make belive youre god. Thats a huge sin.
3. Youre going to hell you know that.
4. I bet if you got shot youll die. You Mortal.
5. I wont bow to an impostor like you. Im offended of you saying that because im a catholic and we belive in Almighty god of above The father of Jesus christ.
6. Youre not god. And igf you were god, why did enrique have to die. And dont even lie.
The sad thing about this is.........he's the older of the two who can't seem to grasp the concept of this post. Hell, this guy apparently can't even read the content. While reading his response I wondered several times if this kid had another window open, reading a different post. Chibi Boy may only be 12 years old and has the thought process there of but atleast he understands the words he's reading on his monitor
just to humor the guy.......
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????WHAT????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/Ok, He is not better than god. If he was, He would know and have the knowledge of everything and stuff from years and years and years and years and years and....well you get the point ago...Yo What religion are you Evil dead just to know.
Ok, He is not better than god.
that is your opinion. Everybody is entitled to theirs. I backed my opinion up with several reasons.......the first one ofcourse being that I am real and can be proven as so.......which is already one up on god as he has never been proven to be anything more than an idea is your head.
If he was, He would know and have the knowledge of everything and stuff from years and years and years and years and years and....well you get the point ago...
um......no, I don't get the point. Were you trying to state something there? That made absolute zero sense.
Yo What religion are you Evil dead just to know.
I'm proud to say I belong to no religion. I have my own thoughts, ideas and beliefs about life, morality, ourselves and the universe we live in. I have no need to have my parents, their clergymen or anyone else tell me what to believe. What they believe is fine, for them (they are Christian)......but beliefs are something that each person should come to on their own, not have dictated to them..............
P.S. I call bullshit on your profile.......there is no way on this earth you can convince me your understanding of this thread came from a 20 year old man's brain. I believe somebody lied about their birthday while registering...........
Hmmm, I must say, just because one knows everything does not make one good or bad, better or worse. It's how one uses such knowledge and so forth.
wow.......I believe that is the fourth intelligent poster in this thread. good show. Perhaps if this thing makes it to 16 pages another one will show up.
Originally posted by Evil Dead🙄
just to humor the guy.......that is your opinion. Everybody is entitled to theirs. I backed my opinion up with several reasons.......the first one ofcourse being that I am real and can be proven as so.......which is already one up on god as he has never been proven to be anything more than an idea is your head.
um......no, I don't get the point. Were you trying to state something there? That made absolute zero sense.
I'm proud to say I belong to no religion. I have my own thoughts, ideas and beliefs about life, morality, ourselves and the universe we live in. I have no need to have my parents, their clergymen or anyone else tell me what to believe. What they believe is fine, for them (they are Christian)......but beliefs are something that each person should come to on their own, not have dictated to them..............
P.S. I call bullsh[b]
it on your profile.......there is no way on this earth you can convince me your understanding of this thread came from a 20 year old man's brain. I believe somebody lied about their birthday while registering...........wow.......I believe that is the fourth intelligent poster in this thread. good show. Perhaps if this thing makes it to 16 pages another one will show up. [/B]
Originally posted by Evil Dead
as stated earlier, you do not need to know something for it to be a scientifc fact.......something that can stand up to testing over and over again and will yield the same results. A simple DNA test can prove both my existence.......and my paternity of my daughter. The test can be administered 100 times.........all 100 tests will yield the same results, making it a fact.I never said that because you can't see god, god must not exist. I said you cannot prove god exists because in the past several thousand years not one shred of evidence has been uncovered to even lend creedence to the very idea of a god.....much less one actually existing. Science has proven the bible correct?.......um......that's the dumbest thing I've read all day. I'll give a short list of very big discrepencies in the bible......
- The Bible says the human race began with two and only two specimens, Adam and Eve. Their children imbred, their children's children imbred and so on until the entire earth was populated with their decendents. This is ofcourse false......as any species, purely imbred ...no new genes being brought into the gene pool of the family will not produce offspring after 6 generations. They would be unviable. The 4th and 5th generations would probably have many defects....physical and mental.
- The Bible states that Jonah lived inside of a fish (whale) for several days......only to emerge alive and intact. Despite the fact that a human being would be suffocated within hours inside of a whale's stomach, the digestive juices would digest them alive within 24 hours..........
- The lineage of the bible puts the earths age at just under 7,000 years. We have found specimens on our planet that date back millions of years.
ofcourse the answer to all of these discrpencies is the same. The bible was written by ancient man who knew very little of the world around them........they did not have the correct information to work into their fairy tale so they wrote their stories without knowing they were in direct contradiction to now known facts. Ofcourse if the words of the bible came from a god......it would all be correct as a god would have known how old the earth was......a god would have known about suffocation and digestive juices in a whale's stomach......etc. etc.
well........duh sh[b]
it........if you have two brain cells to rub together you already know it's impossbile to prove a negative (non-existance). To be proven fact there must be testable data. If something does not exist it can not produce data to test. Originally you claimed to have direct information about god. You said, "God can't show himself, he's spiritual." The only way you could have direct information like this is if you infact talk to god and he tells you. Now you change your story and say "maybe he doesn't want to show us his face unless we was in heaven."..........why are you changing your story? Before you were stating something as fact, now you are merely offering up your best guess.I read it left to right, top to bottom. Unless you're reading in Hebrew, I believe that is the correct way, is it not?
again kid........your knowing something or not knowing something has nothing to do with it being fact. Scientific facts are not based on if Chibi Boy knows them to be true or not. They are based on data that can be tested over and over again, always yielding the same results.
really. Are you 12 years old? You seem to not have the slightest grasp on many subjects you should have learned before entering junior high school. This childish banter based upon stating things which can easily be disputed and in some cases are just plain wrong may work well to impress your friends under the jungle gym but your conversing with adults in here, it does not have the same affect on us. [/B]
"as stated earlier, you do not need to know something for it to be a scientifc fact.......something that can stand up to testing over and over again and will yield the same results. A simple DNA test can prove both my existence.......and my paternity of my daughter. The test can be administered 100 times.........all 100 tests will yield the same results, making it a fact."
1. In gods eyes he is scientific proof too, you'll never meet him just as much as you'll never meet me.
2. You could do the test yourself but i would never see it. Just as much as you'll never see god, he could make a new proof but you might not be there to see it.
3. The Bible doesn't say that the moon is carried by a mammoth, it doesn't say god is that mammoth. The Bible says that god is a spirit, whom at the beginning hung the earth in NOTHING and made it shapeless/NO corners etc.
"really. Are you 12 years old? You seem to not have the slightest grasp on many subjects you should have learned before entering junior high school. This childish banter based upon stating things which can easily be disputed and in some cases are just plain wrong may work well to impress your friends under the jungle gym but your conversing with adults in here, it does not have the same affect on us."
You're saying philosiphy is childish? I am amazed at your suggestion. You are clearly looking in the wrong direction here, if we are trying to prove the existance of god then look at the simalarities to how we see god and life which you believe is proven.
I can't see you.
You can't see god.
You send messages.
God sends miracles.
I will only see you if I leave my house.
You will only see god if your spirit(you) leaves your body.
"The Bible says the human race began with two and only two specimens, Adam and Eve. Their children imbred, their children's children imbred and so on until the entire earth was populated with their decendents. This is ofcourse false......as any species, purely imbred ...no new genes being brought into the gene pool of the family will not produce offspring after 6 generations. They would be unviable. The 4th and 5th generations would probably have many defects....physical and mental."
In the beginning God made humans like him, perfect, it's just sin that changed their DNA into having such dilemnas, and also The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil changed things.
"- The Bible states that Jonah lived inside of a fish (whale) for several days......only to emerge alive and intact. Despite the fact that a human being would be suffocated within hours inside of a whale's stomach, the digestive juices would digest them alive within 24 hours..........!"
Do you know what kind of Whale it means? And also, all underwater creatures breath oxygen, they separate the O2 from the Hydrogen, remember that people didn't know about the insides of a whale in them days, so he could have been just trapped in the mouth.
"The lineage of the bible puts the earths age at just under 7,000 years. We have found specimens on our planet that date back millions of years." Do you mean the fossils that we should be finding in our back garden? Scientists thought that the moon would be piled on with space dust, infact there was hardly any, showing that the moon could have only been around for about 8'000 years. And still, there would be nothing to cover the bones, with hardly any space dust and the idea that the ground should be getting LOWER everyday because of the large amount of animals walking on it, wearing it away for the odd 2,500,000 years!!!
"ofcourse the answer to all of these discrpencies is the same. The bible was written by ancient man who knew very little of the world around them........they did not have the correct information to work into their fairy tale so they wrote their stories without knowing they were in direct contradiction to now known facts. Ofcourse if the words of the bible came from a god......it would all be correct as a god would have known how old the earth was......a god would have known about suffocation and digestive juices in a whale's stomach......etc. etc."
God didn't think we'd want the age of the earth. And what's the point of telling people about the insides of a whale? Thinking about it God could have kept Jonah alive himself.
"The bible was written by ancient man who knew very little of the world around them"
Wrong, the Bible was written by Moses etc who was told things by God, Moses wrote Genesis by being told what happend by God.
And on the subject of what God has said...
In the Bible it explains that in the near future an evil guy named Anti-Christ would come, his origin would be from some new country which would be a superpower(If you haven't heard of Asian etc Muslims creating a superpower country greater than america) and first this anti-christ would take over a country which(after a short while of looking at maps) should be America, which is a free country for beliefs etc. This Anti-Christ would use America to take over the rest of the world. God would take those who beleive in him away to a new place and a new beginning.
The Bible also states that the warnings for end of the world would include war, natural disasters(hurricanes, tsunami, earthquakes etc.), poverty and other things like.
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
And on the subject of what God has said...In the Bible it explains that in the near future an evil guy named Anti-Christ would come, his origin would be from some new country which would be a superpower(If you haven't heard of Asian etc Muslims creating a superpower country greater than america) and first this anti-christ would take over a country which(after a short while of looking at maps) should be America, which is a free country for beliefs etc. This Anti-Christ would use America to take over the rest of the world. God would take those who beleive in him away to a new place and a new beginning.
The Bible also states that the warnings for end of the world would include war, natural disasters(hurricanes, tsunami, earthquakes etc.), poverty and other things like.
You haven't read the bible, I have, all of it. What you are saying is not in the bible, in the way you claim. Read Revelations and you will not find anything about America. Revelations is full of images that can be interpreted in many ways. Read and learn for yourself.
4th intelligent ? why because he agrees with you
who said he agreed with me? He hasn't stated anything of the like...agree/disagree wise. I say the fourth because he is the fourth person I've seen post in this thread who took the time to form their thoughts into a well made post before ever putting finger to keyboard. That shows intelligence. I get the feeling half of the people in here spend literally less than 30 seconds thinking about what they are going to reply with..............which results in a mish-mosh of incoherent jibberish, half of which is not even about the topic at hand.