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Living Tribunal versus Spectre merged with the Source
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The only thing I can find reasonable, is Spectre tapped into the logoz equals the Living Tribunal or Spectre merged with the Source.
There is no way the Living Tribunal would have any problems at all with an imp or the Anti-Monitor.

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The only thing I can find reasonable, is Spectre tapped into the logoz equals the Living Tribunal or Spectre merged with the Source.
There is no way the Living Tribunal would have any problems at all with an imp or the Anti-Monitor.

What has LT ever done that would equal him not having any trouble with a Multiversal level being like the Anti-Moniter?
Besides his role of course.


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Originally posted by Skeets
What has LT ever done that would equal him not having any trouble with a Multiversal level being like the Anti-Moniter?
Besides his role of course.

Nullified the effects of the Infinity Gauntlet, which controlled the energies of the Ultimate Nullifier, which could destroy the Multiverse.

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Multiversal level being like the Anti-Moniter?


The Anti-Monitor was barely above universal.

Definitely not multiversal.

And shutting down the Infinity Gauntlet?

You do realize ANYONE with the Infinity Gauntlet could beat AM easily, right?


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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Nullified the effects of the Infinity Gauntlet, which controlled the energies of the Ultimate Nullifier, which could destroy the Multiverse.

That again?
Do you honestly think the writer at the time had the UN as the Multiverse destroyer it is now after Abraxas arc?
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The Anti-Monitor was barely above universal.

Definitely not multiversal.

And shutting down the Infinity Gauntlet?

You do realize ANYONE with the Infinity Gauntlet could beat AM easily, right?

What the hell? did you read crisis on infinite earths?


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Apologies.

I was thinking of Marvel's superior multiverse, which contains an infinite number of universes. To be a multiversal level threat in Marvel is obviously different than in DC, where there was a limited number of universes and so a multiveral threat is less so.

Still, IG > A-M. It beat the UN, afterall.


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Originally posted by Nikkolas
Apologies.

I was thinking of Marvel's superior multiverse, which contains an infinite number of universes. To be a multiversal level threat in Marvel is obviously different than in DC, where there was a limited number of universes and so a multiveral threat is less so.

Still, IG > A-M. It beat the UN, afterall.


Marvel-verse = DC-verse, let's stay with facts not terms. Anti-Monitor destroyed and infinite number of vibrational planes of reality, which in Marvel Terms would be Universe, to destroy an infinite number is illogical, but hey that's comics right. Anyway, the Marvel-verse considers itself an Omniverse, which is basicly made of an infinite number of Universes, the DC-verse back then was split into an infinite number of Universes, since Anti-Monitor destroyed the infinite number except 5 (comic logic at it's best wink ) he was in Marvel Terms an Omniversal villain. Don't forget, everything he destroyed added to the Antimatter Universes Power and hence to his.

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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Marvel-verse = DC-verse, let's stay with facts not terms. Anti-Monitor destroyed and infinite number of vibrational planes of reality, which in Marvel Terms would be Universe, to destroy an infinite number is illogical, but hey that's comics right. Anyway, the Marvel-verse considers itself an Omniverse, which is basicly made of an infinite number of Universes, the DC-verse back then was split into an infinite number of Universes, since Anti-Monitor destroyed the infinite number except 5 (comic logic at it's best wink ) he was in Marvel Terms an Omniversal villain. Don't forget, everything he destroyed added to the Antimatter Universes Power and hence to his.

In the Abraxas arc Reed used the Nullifier to delete Multi-Eternity, and when they talked to him it was confirmed that he was the embodiment of an infinite amount of universe, and beyond.
And the Nullifier recreated it directly after removing everything, from scratch it created an infinite amount of universes in a nano-second.

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The Living Tribunal is one with all creation, the entire Omniverse.
He is the impulse of life through it, he's the begining, he's the end.
There's nothing he cannot do, for as long as the One-Above-All allowes it.
He can smite the Omniverse, he can recreate it from scratch, he can rewind and reverse time at will, all this with no effort.

You cannot outfeat him, unless you have the Supreme beings power.

The Source is not Presence himself, and it's not the power of the Supreme like the Heart of Infinite was.

And the Living Tribunal is not flawed like Spectre hosted by the Source was, Spectre seemed lost.

Second to the supreme in Marvel equals second to the supreme in DC I'd say.
I fail to understand how ythis response of yours defeats the analogy I set forth? The Lviing Tribunal was defeated by a being, who was empowered in a special way. THOTU did not grant Thanos external omnipotence. He virtually became the universe. That is why it is greater than the Infinity Gauntlet. He was not merely attuned to the universe through cosmic awareness or omniscience, he was the universe.

Virtually the same exact thing happens to Spectre. It is even more clear with Spectre merged w/ Source that he indeed is every single particle and even every single universe. So it apepars to me, that Spectre w/ Source is almost an exact analogue of Thanos w/ THOTU, because what happens to both characters is virtually the same.

Therefore, Spectre w/ Source can defeat Living Tribunal. Personally, I don't believe Thanos became one with the multiverse, like others. Leonidas and nvrbeenwthgrl for examples. But it is very clear that Spectre is one with the DC Multiverse since he refers to universes in plural form in the scan.


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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I fail to understand how ythis response of yours defeats the analogy I set forth? The Lviing Tribunal was defeated by a being, who was empowered in a special way. THOTU did not grant Thanos external omnipotence. He virtually became the universe. That is why it is greater than the Infinity Gauntlet. He was not merely attuned to the universe through cosmic awareness or omniscience, he was the universe.

Virtually the same exact thing happens to Spectre. It is even more clear with Spectre merged w/ Source that he indeed is every single particle and even every single universe. So it apepars to me, that Spectre w/ Source is almost an exact analogue of Thanos w/ THOTU, because what happens to both characters is virtually the same.

Therefore, Spectre w/ Source can defeat Living Tribunal. Personally, I don't believe Thanos became one with the multiverse, like others. Leonidas and nvrbeenwthgrl for examples. But it is very clear that Spectre is one with the DC Multiverse since he refers to universes in plural form in the scan.


Um not me. I do not believe Thanos became one with the multiverse. Airwalker and bigbran made it very clear it was one universe. IT even said the universe many times on panel. I Think mr master is the one who thinks thanos was the multiverse.

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
, I don't believe Thanos became one with the multiverse, like others. Leonidas and nvrbeenwthgrl for examples.
You misunderstand me nvrbeenwthagrl. I meant that, like you and leonidas and bigbran, etc... we all believe that Thanos only became one universe.

But as I stated before, that argument doesn't really matterhere. Even if you believe that Thanos became a multiverse, Spectre does the same when he merges with the source. His words indicate that he is one with every particle and every universe. And vice-versa, even if you believe Thanos only became one universe, it's apparent that Spectre became the multiverse when he merged with the Source.

So either way, Spectre merged w/ Source is either an exact analogue of Thanos w/ THOTU or he is superior to Thanos w/ THOTU. I just don't particularly understand how Thanos_HOTU rebutted this argument in the least. I think he misinterpreted what I was saying.


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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You misunderstand me nvrbeenwthagrl. I meant that, like you and leonidas and bigbran, etc... we all believe that Thanos only became one universe.

But as I stated before, that argument doesn't really matterhere. Even if you believe that Thanos became a multiverse, Spectre does the same when he merges with the source. His words indicate that he is one with every particle and every universe. And vice-versa, even if you believe Thanos only became one universe, it's apparent that Spectre became the multiverse when he merged with the Source.

So either way, Spectre merged w/ Source is either an exact analogue of Thanos w/ THOTU or he is superior to Thanos w/ THOTU. I just don't particularly understand how Thanos_HOTU rebutted this argument in the least. I think he misinterpreted what I was saying.


OH sorry. I misunderstood. As for Thanos_HOTU. Dont' try to understand him. He's a serious noob and is currently stuck in Mr. Master's ass crack. LMAO.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
OH sorry. I misunderstood. As for Thanos_HOTU. Dont' try to understand him. He's a serious noob and is currently stuck in Mr. Master's ass crack. LMAO.
I KNOW YOU WANT THAT ASS CRACK RIGHT roll eyes (sarcastic)

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I KNOW YOU WANT THAT ASS CRACK RIGHT roll eyes (sarcastic)


What part of I dont' like ass dont' you get? YOu silly gamma retard. You got bombarded with gamma rays and your super power is unlimted mental tardedness. Your like the opposite of the Leader. You are the FOLLOWER. Dumber and Dumber the more threads you post to and make!!!

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Well, any changes?

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Hey,

does anyone know if it's true that Cronos of DC knocked down the gates of Heaven and then touched the Presence with the Godwave?
he slaughtered angels with his sickled godwave. when he absorbed the full power of the godwave he couldnt handle it at all.

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my vote is for lt, spectre cant handle all this power. lt for the win.


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