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Except World's Funniest didn't just deal with elseworld's it dealt with everything and has yet to be acknowledged like anything elseworlds wink


World's funnest was an elseworlds tale. ALL else worlds tales are cannon. Per Hypertime, IC and interviews with grant morrison and mark waid. Period. There's no way around that.


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World's funnest was an elseworlds tale. ALL else worlds tales are cannon. Per Hypertime, IC and interviews with grant morrison and mark waid. Period. There's no way around that.
Listen World's Funniest was an Elseworld's tale but that particular elseworld's has never been referenced by any other comic even by other elseworld's comics. At least I'm pretty sure about that. It has never been connected to anything outside of the comic itself.

And just a fun little idea. If Hypertime made Elseworld's cannon than do you think that could have retconed World's Funniest to only taking place in elseworld's and not having anything to do outside of that reality?

We already know Spectre can appear in many forms so having Spectre doesn't automatically equate to Omniverse anyways.


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Listen World's Funniest was an Elseworld's tale but that particular elseworld's has never been referenced by any other comic even by other elseworld's comics. At least I'm pretty sure about that. It has never been connected to anything outside of the comic itself.

And just a fun little idea. If Hypertime made Elseworld's cannon than do you think that could have retconed World's Funniest to only taking place in elseworld's and not having anything to do outside of that reality?

We already know Spectre can appear in many forms so having Spectre doesn't automatically equate to Omniverse anyways.


There is only ONE spectre in any form. And there is ONLY one mxy. Also, the reason the story wouldn't be mentioned outside is becuz Mxy put everything back the way it was. He even references how he knows better than to mess with the cosmos the way the joker did. ANd are you forgetting that he did a better feat in defeating the Ultimator?


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Hypertime doesn't really make everything canon. There is too much conclict with other stories and relevance to canon.


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Hypertime doesn't really make everything canon. There is too much conclict with other stories and relevance to canon.


NO it's not. What can conflict from universe to universe?AND this is coming from MARK WAID AND GRANT MORRISON"S mouths. The creators of hypertime.


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There is only ONE spectre in any form. And there is ONLY one mxy. Also, the reason the story wouldn't be mentioned outside is becuz Mxy put everything back the way it was. He even references how he knows better than to mess with the cosmos the way the joker did. ANd are you forgetting that he did a better feat in defeating the Ultimator?
Listen Spectre appears in many places just because Spectre was there doesn't mean it was actually the full power of the spectre going there.

And once again you miss the point.

I was making a question. Since Hypertime was introduced afterwards wouldn't there be a chance that the very notion of elseworlds being a separate reality kind of deal possibly retcon World's Funniest by association? You know like it auto retcons it so all that MXY did was destroy the elseworlds reality?

Now before you go referencing the comic about destroying everything the question raises upon scope. Could Mxy have only destroyed all the realities of the elseworlds?


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Listen Spectre appears in many places just because Spectre was there doesn't mean it was actually the full power of the spectre going there.

And once again you miss the point.

I was making a question. Since Hypertime was introduced afterwards wouldn't there be a chance that the very notion of elseworlds being a separate reality kind of deal possibly retcon World's Funniest by association? You know like it auto retcons it so all that MXY did was destroy the elseworlds reality?

Now before you go referencing the comic about destroying everything the question raises upon scope. Could Mxy have only destroyed all the realities of the elseworlds?


In World's funnest, He wiped it all away. He visited the infinite earth's multiverse, the DCAU, etc. And unless specifically stated, there is no retcon of something when an all encompassing retcon happens. unless Hypertime somehow selectively chooses which elseworlds stories happened, then as stated, they all happened.


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In World's funnest, He wiped it all away. He visited the infinite earth's multiverse, the DCAU, etc. And unless specifically stated, there is no retcon of something when an all encompassing retcon happens. unless Hypertime somehow selectively chooses which elseworlds stories happened, then as stated, they all happened.
That doesn't make sense. we know that each DC Reality can be composed of infinite things. We also know Mxy never used Hypertime in World's Funniest to go between destinations.

If elseworlds becomes cannon the only time World's Funniest is referenced is in elseworlds but never outside of it couldn't that mean only elseworlds was effected by the events of World's Funniest.


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That doesn't make sense. we know that each DC Reality can be composed of infinite things. We also know Mxy never used Hypertime in World's Funniest to go between destinations.

If elseworlds becomes cannon the only time World's Funniest is referenced is in elseworlds but never outside of it couldn't that mean only elseworlds was effected by the events of World's Funniest.


Mxy also retcons characters, visits mike carlin, and talks to the reader. So again, why does anything involving him need to make sense? ANd for the record, ALL elseworlds are referenced at a singular moment in hypertime. That is all it takes. Hypertime is referenced in DC several times in the main DCU. Valid thru and thru. Oh and mxy doesn't need hypertime to travel anywhere. He's that powerful. He went from DC to vertigo in New Years evil by skipping from one page to the next.


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Mxy also retcons characters, visits mike carlin, and talks to the reader. So again, why does anything involving him need to make sense? ANd for the record, ALL elseworlds are referenced at a singular moment in hypertime. That is all it takes. Hypertime is referenced in DC several times in the main DCU. Valid thru and thru. Oh and mxy doesn't need hypertime to travel anywhere. He's that powerful. He went from DC to vertigo in New Years evil by skipping from one page to the next.
Listen I'm off this tear of how powerful Mxy is Nvr.

I'm simply stating that sense World's Funniest is an elseworld's title then couldn't that be a retcon of the events of WF because of Hypertime and thus since WF has never been talked about in anyother comic besides elseworlds couldn't that mean that Mxy only destroyed the elseworlds reality?


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Listen I'm off this tear of how powerful Mxy is Nvr.

I'm simply stating that sense World's Funniest is an elseworld's title then couldn't that be a retcon of the events of WF because of Hypertime and thus since WF has never been talked about in anyother comic besides elseworlds couldn't that mean that Mxy only destroyed the elseworlds reality?


Except there is no elseworld's reality. Elseworlds is Hypertime. Hypertime is everything.


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Except there is no elseworld's reality. Elseworlds is Hypertime. Hypertime is everything.
except elseworld's had its own reality.

Hypertime is everything doesn't mean smaller systems can not exist inside of it.

In fact COIE and IC and evne the existence of the 4th and 5th dimensions points to this.


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except elseworld's had its own reality.

Hypertime is everything doesn't mean smaller systems can not exist inside of it.

In fact COIE and IC and evne the existence of the 4th and 5th dimensions points to this.


You've lost. Mxy has already one up world's funnest feats by defeating the Spectre and the Joker using myx's power to bind the spectre to all of reality. World's funnest is cannon becuz all else world's are cannon. SInce there is oNLY one mxy, and he visited all of the universes, as he shown the power to do over and over, the feats are valid. now shoo.


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Its canon not cannon.


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You've lost. Mxy has already one up world's funnest feats by defeating the Spectre and the Joker using myx's power to bind the spectre to all of reality. World's funnest is cannon becuz all else world's are cannon. SInce there is oNLY one mxy, and he visited all of the universes, as he shown the power to do over and over, the feats are valid. now shoo.
Umm the first two sentences have nothing to do with what I posted.

And like I said World's funniest is only an elseworld's title and elseworld is a reality so with the retcon of Hypertime it could be stated that Mxy only destroyed elseworlds.


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Umm the first two sentences have nothing to do with what I posted.

And like I said World's funniest is only an elseworld's title and elseworld is a reality so with the retcon of Hypertime it could be stated that Mxy only destroyed elseworlds.

WRONG. Elseworlds is NOT a reality. Each Else worlds is it's own reality. **** it. It's obvious your trolling or up to something.


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WRONG. Elseworlds is NOT a reality. Each Else worlds is it's own reality. **** it. It's obvious your trolling or up to something.
And therefore the elseworlds line would be multiple realities destroyed just like what Mxy and Batmite did in WF.

So once again seeing as WF is never mentioned outside of an elseworld's tale then is it possible that Mxy only effected the elseworld's realities.


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And therefore the elseworlds line would be multiple realities destroyed just like what Mxy and Batmite did in WF.

So once again seeing as WF is never mentioned outside of an elseworld's tale then is it possible that Mxy only effected the elseworld's realities.


YOu could make a case for it IF it weren't Mxy. Who is uber in all things cosmic and knows the difference of what reality is what. He mentions them by name. And SO do the authors in an interview. HAh, bet you didn't know that.


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YOu could make a case for it IF it weren't Mxy. Who is uber in all things cosmic and knows the difference of what reality is what. He mentions them by name. And SO do the authors in an interview. HAh, bet you didn't know that.
Actually I did which I once again point back to a previous statement where Mxy may have just destroyed those realities in the whole of the elseworlds system. Which is very plausible to the writing that was given.


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Actually I did which I once again point back to a previous statement where Mxy may have just destroyed those realities in the whole of the elseworlds system. Which is very plausible to the writing that was given.

EXcept not only are the realities mentioned By NAME, he also clearly says it's all gone.


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