I don't really think WW gets downplayed at all, she might be one of the few characters isn't effect by Supes aura. If anything Supes is constantly downplayed to allow the weaker DC characters to shine.
If Supes was written in peak form every comic, there would be no need for the JLA to say the least. Considering that WW is constantly portrayed as being able to compete agaisnt him....I dont think is even remotly downplayed at all. On the other hand, Supes is always underminded otherwise no lesser DC hero's won't be able to shine.
Um. No. Unless you think Superman can replicate Wondy's skill set. Or Flashes. Or Batman's prep. Or Firestorm Matter manip and energy manip. Or GL"s infinite ability to create. Superman got his has handed to him by a quantum. It was Kyle who helped recreate the heaven's ladder. It was MM who mind linked everyone. Superman isn't a one man JLA by any means.
Oh really, so you don't think he underminded the least bit even considering he is physically stronger/faster/durable then everyone you just mentioned. If supes stopped getting written in a way to lower himself on the rest of his teams level, we would be back in the PC days which IMO is how supes should be operating at. This character can easily make a transition to skyfather if DC stopped holding him down with chains. The JLA are only viable because Supes is written down to be peers with them as opposed to there superior which he is.
How about they are his peers. At least some of them. If Superman were PC levels then who would he fight? He'd be a boring characacter like the surfer is. No one wants to read about a hero who is impossible to beat. Where's the suspence? And Stronger is one thing. even durable. But faster? That flash? he would still lose to a prepared firestorm.
Galen has a point here. Even as a kid I always wondered what the point of the Superfriends was, seeing as how Superman is stronger and faster than anyone else on the team, and logically should be able to function as well as the rest of them working together.
I have no doubt the feat was trying to say Wonder Woman has insane speed, but to try rationalize it like you did puts it way out of contest, much like my Quicksilver example.
Wonder Woman is not FTL. I just went through a few bios of hers, and while Superspeed is an attribute of hers, they don't say anything about being able to hit light speed, much less break it. The highest clocked speed I've found is Mach 3 for her.
Superman's speed feat, the Vega to Earth in minutes flight, is a measurable feat. Vega is lightyears away, and Superman made the trip in less than a year, putting his speed well above lightspeed.
Surfer has made a lightyear long trip in seconds, if that, giving him a measured speed of millions of time's above lightspeed.
The Midgard Serpant was a beast on a planetary scale, and we know that flesh is dense and heavy, much as soil and rock is, meaning that Thor has the strength to lift planet sized objects. Its not like the serpent was a long paper bag filleed with helium.
Then we have this Wondy "feat." She's going fast, sure, but ther is nothing quantifiable here. She's blocking some pieces of a shattered god, but nothing suggests they are moving FTL. Her other supposed FTL feats are just an art style, nothing even Spider-Man hasn't shown. WW is fast, but she's not FTL fast.
So mister genious, how fast was the shattered God pulling himself back together From AROUND THE UNIVERSE.
oh and wondy and CM draw speed from the same God. Mercury and Hermes split into two seperate beings thanks to DS. Both with the same powers and everything.
WW is as Fast as CM. now stop hating. Better yet, Prove to us that The Shattered God wasn't pulling thousands of pieces of himself from around the Universe at faster than c. Since you know so gad damned much. Thor's feat is not any more quantifiable than Wonder Woman's. but you just choose to which one you like and which you don't. You are really starting to make me boil. And then you say SOME pieces of the shattered God. She's blocking them ALL.
Supes is in their league. Again,you are talking about your personal view of him and trying to dismiss the actual comics themselves. He is above WW physically,but she is a peer of his. Thats just the way it is and comics have supported this. I cant believe you are acting like dc underscores Superman. They favor him far too much.
Supes also bullrushed DS to the source wall in 3 panels which is on the far edge of the DCU which would put in him millions of times FTL as well...he also moved the gears of a solar sized object. The serpent was never stated as being the weight of the planet, just like how a worm wrapped around a apple isn't the same wieght of the apple.
Thats your opinion. Thats like a Thor fan saying that Thor would be awesome at Odin levels. Imagine how ridiculous an dhow difficult it would be for him to interact with the marvel u being that powerful. Same with Supes.
Supes has always stated the reason he hold off on realizing his true potential is because of his love for humans. I would love to see a mini series when Supes finally gives into vanity and becomes what he was meant to be. There are ways to right for him in that form that wouldn't be to boring like SS, although SS wasn't that bad. I personally Find someone like Wolverine a much more boring character.
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