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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
Super Prime would be limited to H2h just like Odin would be, this mean no multiple hit combos, but more of a punch for punch type battle. Just keep that in mind. Monarch is no Odin, nor is Odin as vulnerable to piercing attacks as Monarch was, due mainly to his containment suit. Odin would have popped monarch as well, but the only thing here is that Odin wouldn't have been knocked for a loop by the outcome of the suits rupture.
I'm pretty sure combos would be allowed
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Galan showed scans proving it wasn't a universe busting blast.
Still more than Odin can do h2h
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Sep 10th, 2013 06:24 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggerman
I'm pretty sure combos would be allowed
Still more than Odin can do h2h
Wouldn't super speed combos be him using exotic powers?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggerman
IDK if Odin can put Super Prime down. Even normal Prime took a universe buster. Can't see Odin matching that h2h
You should visit the Hyperion vs. Prime thread.
Anyways, Prime was knocked the f*ck out and it was far from a Universe buster.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by wolverinos
too dense to comprehend? i will repeat again.
we dont see prime actually hurt, all we see is prime being pissed and stating it hurt like a mockery and douchery.
prime is the most arrogant character in DC, during his amp he was even a bigger douche.
Prime was walking straight thru anything and anyone.
suddenly an attack made him feel something therefor he was like "you dare?".
as i pointed out before its same as someone pinching you, it hurts to some degree and makes you pissed but light years from making damage.
all that is backed by the fact prime wasnt even slightly hurt after that attack.
and also an even weaker prime who already lost that Amp he had survived a universal blast.
but of course why would you use logic and comprehension of words? when you can just point out like a little dull kid at the picture and say "BUT BUT PRIME SAIZ ET HORET"
You can do say whatever you want, but unless you have some actual evidence to support your conclusion, there's no possible argument to be made around this very clear on panel statement:
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It's not vague, said mockingly or sarcastically. Prime was pissed, really pissed because it hurt . It really, really , hurt.
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Sep 10th, 2013 06:35 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggerman
More pointless crap i see.
The difference is totally different. If Drax can't amp at all and then Thanos can by choice, how exactly is that like Odin amping as a choice and Hulk having an auto amp? It's not. You're just bringing up unrelated BS to try to back your meaningless claim.
A slugfest is just two people punching each other. Odin would have to actively amp himself which is not just fighting. Hulk would grow stronger BY just fighting. Big difference even tho you want to ignore it.
Odin is weaker as in he is gimped here. But since you need him to amp then ok he can. He'd still lose.
I didn't make the thread. I didn't choose the stipulations. My understand was that it would be purely a slugfest as the OP stated. But since you cried let him amp.
I know Hulk doesn't have to amp but in a fight it's automatic. Unless it's turned off by the OP then I'd assume he has it. With Odin i'd assume he can do anything he has within his power unless he is gimped like he is here.
I've dropped the no amping point and still feel as tho Prime wins
What are you even talking about?
Drax amped with the PG subconsciously, he was basically Hulk via he had no control over it and would amp by fighting. Thanos has control over it. It's the exact same thing, though I wouldn't expect you to know a thing about comics. There's some more retarded distinctions from you. But I agree, it's best to just ignore the similarities... in your case.
And Odin does it in the middle of fighting. He doesn't take time out of a busy schedule, he does it just as quick if not quicker if we're under the assumption everything he's done is with an amp. He doesn't put his hand up and say "Wait, I gotta put my amp pants on, this will take a moment... shit, these are skinny fit amp pants."
I see a hypocrite trying to make a pointless distinction between amping not being allowed and amping being allowed. As Rage said:
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How does that change absolutely anything at all? This is the most retarded qualifier for amping I've ever read.
So according to you, people can only amp when its involuntary? What the f*ck?
I thought you said you weren't trying to insert your opinion of how things go as fact? Yet here you are just contradicting yourself again. When I've asked you to go about proving that amping isn't allowed in these types of threads you said "Explained already". But you've utterly failed to explain anything other than Hulk's amping works different than Odin's. You've backtracked repeatedly, contradicted yourself repeatedly. Ignored the part where this is only coming from you, yet you want to insert your opinion again as a fact. Silly guy you.
lol at need him to amp. I've already said it's never been said that he's amping when he fights, just that it covers all bases from what he's done.
And that goes back into you making up rules. No one else was under the assumption amping is out of slugfests, indicated by like 3 different people questioning you immediately when you said it.
But yes, I'm crying. Proving someone wrong in every capacity looks bad on me. My tears amp me, but in a way that's allowed in these sort of threads. It appears your tears don't amp you in the same way, and thus your amp isn't allowed.
And it's apparently automatic for Odin to amp in fights, via him apparently doing it in every fight.
lol at you still saying Odin is gimped.
You dropped the no amping point... so what exactly is the rest of your post? I don't mean to be a dick, but do you even think about what you post?
"I'm going to spend an entire post trying to explain that Hulk can amp but Odin shouldn't, say Odin can't amp a couple times, and then at the end of my post say I dropped the point! That way he can't possibly discuss what I said above. Foolproof Juggerman, can't miss."
And really, can any of us miss with such hip and happening points that you're pedaling (and backpedaling), but wait, you also aren't saying it like it's a fact or anything, just that that's what the thread is, because you're under the 'assumption'?
Next you're going to say you were under the assumption that characters weren't allowed to walk in these threads. Except for Hulk, who is too stupid not to walk
But since you've dropped the no amping point via you clearing that up so well... I disagree that Prime wins.
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Sep 10th, 2013 06:37 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by wolverinos
Nah i just use something called Mind... ever heard of that thing?
what i said does not contradict anything but actually side that.
i find it amusing how many members here like yourself are very double standard and hypocrite.
when it suits you , you go and explain the details behind a scan, but when it does not suit you, you are walking blindly claiming you get what you see.
i already gave explanation to that, unless you got anything new to add buzz off.
Yes, explaining context is the same as making up context. Good job AJ. I hope you're proud
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Sep 10th, 2013 06:40 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
Wouldn't super speed combos be him using exotic powers?
I think in a slug fest both guys would be punching as hard and fast as possible. Wouldn't you think this would be the case?
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Sep 10th, 2013 06:47 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Branlor Swift
What are you even talking about?
Drax amped with the PG subconsciously, he was basically Hulk via he had no control over it and would amp by fighting. Thanos has control over it. It's the exact same thing, though I wouldn't expect you to know a thing about comics. There's some more retarded distinctions from you. But I agree, it's best to just ignore the similarities... in your case.
And Odin does it in the middle of fighting. He doesn't take time out of a busy schedule, he does it just as quick if not quicker if we're under the assumption everything he's done is with an amp. He doesn't put his hand up and say "Wait, I gotta put my amp pants on, this will take a moment... shit, these are skinny fit amp pants."
I see a hypocrite trying to make a pointless distinction between amping not being allowed and amping being allowed. As Rage said:
I thought you said you weren't trying to insert your opinion of how things go as fact? Yet here you are just contradicting yourself again. When I've asked you to go about proving that amping isn't allowed in these types of threads you said "Explained already". But you've utterly failed to explain anything other than Hulk's amping works different than Odin's. You've backtracked repeatedly, contradicted yourself repeatedly. Ignored the part where this is only coming from you, yet you want to insert your opinion again as a fact. Silly guy you.
lol at need him to amp. I've already said it's never been said that he's amping when he fights, just that it covers all bases from what he's done.
And that goes back into you making up rules. No one else was under the assumption amping is out of slugfests, indicated by like 3 different people questioning you immediately when you said it.
But yes, I'm crying. Proving someone wrong in every capacity looks bad on me. My tears amp me, but in a way that's allowed in these sort of threads. It appears your tears don't amp you in the same way, and thus your amp isn't allowed.
And it's apparently automatic for Odin to amp in fights, via him apparently doing it in every fight.
lol at you still saying Odin is gimped.
You dropped the no amping point... so what exactly is the rest of your post? I don't mean to be a dick, but do you even think about what you post?
"I'm going to spend an entire post trying to explain that Hulk can amp but Odin shouldn't, say Odin can't amp a couple times, and then at the end of my post say I dropped the point! That way he can't possibly discuss what I said above. Foolproof Juggerman, can't miss."
And really, can any of us miss with such hip and happening points that you're pedaling (and backpedaling), but wait, you also aren't saying it like it's a fact or anything, just that that's what the thread is, because you're under the 'assumption'?
Next you're going to say you were under the assumption that characters weren't allowed to walk in these threads. Except for Hulk, who is too stupid not to walk
But since you've dropped the no amping point via you clearing that up so well... I disagree that Prime wins.
Calm down.
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Sep 10th, 2013 06:51 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggerman
I think in a slug fest both guys would be punching as hard and fast as possible. Wouldn't you think this would be the case?
So, I know you "dropped your point" and all... but you're of the opinion that people should actively activate super speed in threads, but actively amping is a no no?
MAKES SENSE TO ME
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Calm down.
Concession accepted.
Mark another win down for the good guys. We did it rage. We won another
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So, I know you "dropped your point" and all... but you're of the opinion that people should actively activate super speed in threads, but actively amping is a no no?
MAKES SENSE TO ME
I didn't know punching fast enough to land two or more hits in a row required super speed.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Concession accepted.
Mark another win down for the good guys. We did it rage. We won another
Calm down
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Sep 10th, 2013 06:54 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
Wouldn't super speed combos be him using exotic powers?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggerman
I think in a slug fest both guys would be punching as hard and fast as possible. Wouldn't you think this would be the case?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggerman
I didn't know punching fast enough to land two or more hits in a row required super speed.
Calm down
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Sep 10th, 2013 06:55 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggerman
I'm pretty sure combos would be allowed
Looks like you didn't look back far enough. Since when have combos required super speed?
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Sep 10th, 2013 06:58 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggerman
Looks like you didn't look back far enough. Since when have combos required super speed?
And Stoic questioned super speed being used, and you said you'd think they'd punch as fast as possible... The initial post is irrelevant.
But that's why I posed the question. But it seems contrary to what you stated, you don't think super speed should be used.
So I'll ask straight up. Can Prime use super speed here?
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Sep 10th, 2013 07:02 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Branlor Swift
And Stoic questioned super speed being used, and you said you'd think they'd punch as fast as possible... The initial post is irrelevant.
But that's why I posed the question. But it seems contrary to what you stated, you don't think super speed should be used.
So I'll ask straight up. Can Prime use super speed here?
It is not. He said combos would not be utilized and i said i believed they would be. But i can see how you'd like to ignore that.
Prime is fast enough to combo with or without superspeed
I would say no but seeing as how others powers are ok to use i suppose it would be fair if he did
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Sep 10th, 2013 07:07 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggerman
It is not. He said combos would not be utilized and i said i believed they would be. But i can see how you'd like to ignore that.
Prime is fast enough to combo with or without superspeed
I would say no but seeing as how others powers are ok to use i suppose it would be fair if he did
I fail to see how that is relevant to anything about superspeed not being used. If anything it implies it...
You said "combos", therefore that overrules you seemingly agreeing about superspeed being used. Makes sense.
But I digress.
Weren't others opposed to you taking away Odin's amping? I think they were, not sure though.
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Sep 10th, 2013 07:14 PM
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In terms of pure physical strength I give it to Prime.
With all of their powers allowed however I would say Odin.
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Sep 10th, 2013 07:15 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I fail to see how that is relevant to anything about superspeed not being used. If anything it implies it...
You said "combos", therefore that overrules you seemingly agreeing about superspeed being used. Makes sense.
But I digress.
Weren't others opposed to you taking away Odin's amping? I think they were, not sure though.
I didn't agree one way or the other. I asked a question.
I believe it was you and one or two others that were opposed. Well openly opposed
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Sep 10th, 2013 07:16 PM
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Lol, and here's another spanner in the works...
If superspeed is not allowed, is super durability?
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