JS: Well, that was the challenge. To start off with is the fact that I did sort of leave him as either he was dead, or he’d just gone through something that no other character in the universe had ever done. And so I opted for the latter and when he was, basically he was God , it never said that he was actually going to go and die; he just said that was it. And, as a result, he put himself back together, along with the rest of the universe, but has gone through a bit of an epiphany while he was at it. And the series starts off finding Thanos deciding that it hasn’t worked being a conqueror and all that, so he’s going to give the lighter side of life a little bit of a shot. Try and be a good guy. But, of course, he’s Thanos, so, well you can just imagine how well that’s going to work. <laughter>
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Beyonder vs God.
I implore anyone to google the New Universe.
Don't listen to this guy...he's LYING...look it up and see through this clown.
And you will all see the New Universe was created by Marvel in November of 1986.
This means that Beyonder was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE the Multi-verse from May 1984 to November 1986.
Whatever.
According to the On Panel evidence he was EVERYTHING beyond the Multi-verse. (please log in to view the image)
"here we are OUTSIDE Earth's Universe and ALL the Infinite Adjacent Dimensions which make up the Multi-verse...BEYOND ALL KNOW EXISTENCE!!!!!
Yes.
pre-retcon Beyonder was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE the Multi-verse.
You were advised to take that irrelevant matter to an appropriate thread at an appropriate time because after we have dealt with the multitude of issues youre avoiding (proving the existence of a multi-Death, the long absent Lucifer thread ive been waiting for a reply in ) this point youre clinging on to (for lack of anything better ( ) will be quite easily countered like the rest of the spam you present as arguments.
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Nope. You posted a scan of Death who was in the same issue defined as universal, being wiped out and its effects having multiversal consequences. Neither you or I are experts in Marvel cosmic law so with that in mind ( plus the definition given for Death in the issue and the lack of a Multi Death in statement or depiction both before and after Secret Wars ) you cannot mark that consequence out as evidence for a Multi Death. As ever, you lose
I notice that the people arguing for the Beyonder here are basing it off off of Mr. Masters theory's and scans. However, to my knowlege he has never stated that the Beyonder is God, let alone above God. So why don't you ask him who he feels would win.
im not arguing who would win, but im agruing that the beyonder wasnt created by god as can be proven on panel......so he cant be subject to the same type of TOAA's powers that beings in the normal multiverse are subject to
personally i dnt care what ne1 says, no one has been able to tell me how im wrong, and while master may know a lot about this subject whatever he says wont sway my oppinion or any1 elses
So, that means he is part of Marvel Universe. TOAA is thought to represent whole Marvel Company, everyone who is writing, so that means, when writer made something, it's like TOAA made it.
So that mean when writer retconn Beyonder, that means TOAA rectonned him, took his power and Beyodner couldn' t do anything.
TOAA is everything in MU.
No Marvel did specificly create him as an outsider so they wouldent be able to control him. He could just enter our Multiverse and replace the highest power.