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Beyonder vs God.
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Astner
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Originally posted by Juntai
However The Brothers were never representations of TOAA and The Presence in a comic. The point is mute.

Thanos with HOTU was Thanos with HOTU, not The Presence or the Supreme Being.

Thanos was most certainly "God"

JS: Well, that was the challenge. To start off with is the fact that I did sort of leave him as either he was dead, or he’d just gone through something that no other character in the universe had ever done. And so I opted for the latter and when he was, basically he was God , it never said that he was actually going to go and die; he just said that was it. And, as a result, he put himself back together, along with the rest of the universe, but has gone through a bit of an epiphany while he was at it. And the series starts off finding Thanos deciding that it hasn’t worked being a conqueror and all that, so he’s going to give the lighter side of life a little bit of a shot. Try and be a good guy. But, of course, he’s Thanos, so, well you can just imagine how well that’s going to work. <laughter>

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Beyonder vs God.

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
a) the fact that during the Pre retcon period, we were informed about the New Universe which had nothing to do with the Beyonder


I implore anyone to google the New Universe.

Don't listen to this guy...he's LYING...look it up and see through this clown.

And you will all see the New Universe was created by Marvel in November of 1986.

This means that Beyonder was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE the Multi-verse from May 1984 to November 1986.

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
b) It was stated on panel that Beyonder was a a universe from beyond the Marvel multiverse


Whatever.

According to the On Panel evidence he was EVERYTHING beyond the Multi-verse.
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"here we are OUTSIDE Earth's Universe and ALL the Infinite Adjacent Dimensions which make up the Multi-verse...BEYOND ALL KNOW EXISTENCE!!!!!

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Are you denying that its ever been stated on panel that Beyonder was a universe that lay beyond the main marvel multiverse?


Yes.

pre-retcon Beyonder was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE the Multi-verse.


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LT is above death HOTU raped LT therefore HOTU>Death cmon people simple logic you dont need 202 IQ to figure it out.


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Originally posted by sexyking
sleep Oh come on you pop in pop out yet you havent given an opinion on the two opponents who this thread is about. So i ask again who do you think will win?

Unlike you he don't "think who would win" he knows.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
What happen to...

You were really confident weren't you.

You brought it up...I thought you said "I assaulted you with a barrage of scans showing NOT ONE of the points I'm debating" in this very thread.

Then you have the nerve to reply with:
"If you want to argue this point then please do so in the appropriate thread"

You just feel like a D*ck...and your upset.


You were advised to take that irrelevant matter to an appropriate thread at an appropriate time because after we have dealt with the multitude of issues youre avoiding (proving the existence of a multi-Death, the long absent Lucifer thread ive been waiting for a reply in big grin ) this point youre clinging on to (for lack of anything better ( shifty ) will be quite easily countered like the rest of the spam you present as arguments.


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Already did, and I could care less if you except the on panel evidence or not.


Nope. You posted a scan of Death who was in the same issue defined as universal, being wiped out and its effects having multiversal consequences. Neither you or I are experts in Marvel cosmic law so with that in mind ( plus the definition given for Death in the issue and the lack of a Multi Death in statement or depiction both before and after Secret Wars ) you cannot mark that consequence out as evidence for a Multi Death. As ever, you lose thumb down


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Beyonder vs God.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
I implore anyone to google the New Universe.

Don't listen to this guy...he's LYING...look it up and see through this clown.

And you will all see the New Universe was created by Marvel in November of 1986.

This means that Beyonder was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE the Multi-verse from May 1984 to November 1986.



Whatever.

According to the On Panel evidence he was EVERYTHING beyond the Multi-verse.
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"here we are OUTSIDE Earth's Universe and ALL the Infinite Adjacent Dimensions which make up the Multi-verse...BEYOND ALL KNOW EXISTENCE!!!!!



Yes.

pre-retcon Beyonder was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE the Multi-verse.
the beyonder crated himself from nothingness, ans it was even stated that without the beyonder, the beyond realm wouldnt even be a place at all


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I notice that the people arguing for the Beyonder here are basing it off off of Mr. Masters theory's and scans. However, to my knowlege he has never stated that the Beyonder is God, let alone above God. So why don't you ask him who he feels would win.


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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Unlike you he don't "think who would win" he knows.


Well if he knows rather than continue his own personal vendetta with GS why don't he state who he believes would win.


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Originally posted by Mordum
LT is above death HOTU raped LT therefore HOTU>Death cmon people simple logic you dont need 202 IQ to figure it out.

Read the END http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?...0618tato4hd.jpg

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Well if he knows rather than continue his own personal vendetta with Gs why don't he state who he believes would win.


yes


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Originally posted by darthgoober
I notice that the people arguing for the Beyonder here are basing it off off of Mr. Masters theory's and scans. However, to my knowlege he has never stated that the Beyonder is God, let alone above God. So why don't you ask him who he feels would win.
im not arguing who would win, but im agruing that the beyonder wasnt created by god as can be proven on panel......so he cant be subject to the same type of TOAA's powers that beings in the normal multiverse are subject to


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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
yes

So Master, it's your call; Was classic Beyonder more powerful than God.
Your knowledge about surpasses all of ours combinded.
Well?

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So Master, it's your call; Was classic Beyonder more powerful than God.
Your knowledge about surpasses all of ours combinded.
Well?


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personally i dnt care what ne1 says, no one has been able to tell me how im wrong, and while master may know a lot about this subject whatever he says wont sway my oppinion or any1 elses


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im not arguing who would win, but im agruing that the beyonder wasnt created by god as can be proven on panel......so he cant be subject to the same type of TOAA's powers that beings in the normal multiverse are subject to

If that were true TOAA wouldn't have been able to subject him to a recton.

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Originally posted by sexyking
sick Greatest ass licker on the kmc comic book board.

Your point...?
I was asking him a question?
I would ask you kindly too, if you shown any sign of inteligence.

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Beyonder was supose to be the ultimate being, so Marvel made him it.


So, that means he is part of Marvel Universe. TOAA is thought to represent whole Marvel Company, everyone who is writing, so that means, when writer made something, it's like TOAA made it.
So that mean when writer retconn Beyonder, that means TOAA rectonned him, took his power and Beyodner couldn' t do anything.
TOAA is everything in MU.


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Originally posted by darthgoober
If that were true TOAA wouldn't have been able to subject him to a recton.

He's still alive on forums as a specific character, so did Marvel really remove him?

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Originally posted by Xplosive
So, that means he is part of Marvel Universe. TOAA is thought to represent whole Marvel Company, everyone who is writing, so that means, when writer made something, it's like TOAA made it.
So that mean when writer retconn Beyonder, that means TOAA rectonned him, took his power and Beyodner couldn' t do anything.
TOAA is everything in MU.

No Marvel did specificly create him as an outsider so they wouldent be able to control him. He could just enter our Multiverse and replace the highest power.

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