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Originally posted by Surtur
The bizarre thing about election interference is we all do it. And by "we" I mean all major powers in the world. It might take on different forms, but we all do it.

It doesn't justify others doing it, but if it's such a horrible thing then how come we do it?

And with the internet there is no way we can stop it all. No way other than cracking down China style on it.

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Originally posted by Lestov16
Okay let's address some stuff here. First and mainly, why in the hell are you still moaning about 2016 Hillary voters? In 2020?? I literally just explained how liberals WERE NOT stupid, because they DID NOT vote for her, which is why she DID NOT win. You are complaining about liberals being dumb....for something that liberal's WEREN'T dumb enough to do.

As far as the amount of blood on Hillary's hands compared to Trump, of course, she was in politics for decades, whereas he was "just" a famous media personality. Just because he wasn't ordering drone strikes for decades doesn't mean he was a good boi just tendin to hisself. Let's not forget his Central Park Five accusations, which he is still too prideful to fully refute.

As far as Soldyra, no, I'll admit I haven't heard of it, but that's because Obama wasn't unprofessional enough to have him and his daughter tweet about it during a global crisis.

As far as Russian interference, I think it's pretty clear that both parties have engaged in arguably treasonous Watergate esque tactics against each other, so accusing either side of unethical dirt-digging is the pot calling the kettle black imo.

I understand that you want to believe that Biden is worse than Trump, but quite simply, it's beyond politics at this point and truly a matter of integrity of demeanor. Trump ceaselessly acts like a petulant competitor, and that attitude representing the country will lead to nothing but a world of global jingoism. As I stated, the world needs someone right now who is compassionate and intelligent enough to bring cooperation, compromise, and evolution of living standards to the world's various factions, rather than someone belligerent and domineering who only wishes to incite tribalism. If Trump started shitting out the cure for COVID tomorrow, I still wouldn't vote for him. He simply lacks the responsibility, humility, and discipline necessary for such an important leadership position.

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Originally posted by Blakemore
I'm finding a lot of respect for Lestov

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Originally posted by Lestov16
Let's put everything on the table here. Pizzagate is real. It's been real since the 80's(at least). I'm fairly certain that the Clintons are members, and that Obama was forced to aid and abet their conspiracy out of political/mortal/familial threat.

As far as Trump's involvement, while I FEEL like he is involved, given his overtly lustful nature, past social circles with both Clinton and Epstein, and unscrupulous opportunism, there has never been any indisputable evidence of pedophilia, and his public rivalry with the Clintons makes his involvement somewhat unfalsifiable, and it is unclear whether his attacks against them are actual critiques, or excuses for plausible deniability. That's the problem with acting like a manchild and having no integrity.

Regardless, Clinton, Podesta, Marina Abramovic, and their Satanic Pedo Cult are extremely powerful (to the point that I can't find the Divine Lotus Pizzagate Documentary because they removed it from Youtube!) and their murder of Jeffrey Epstein may have been key to finally exposing them, as their existence is slowly becoming publicly known.

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Originally posted by Surtur
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Originally posted by Lestov16
I see you're drinking a big cup of my morning cream. Don't forget to wipe dat mouf

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Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I have always wondered who that girl is.

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Originally posted by jaden_2.0
It's from an old series of Big Brother iirc.

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Originally posted by jaden_2.0
You pumped Jade Goody, didn't you?

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Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Pretty pathetic to suggest Trump was involved with Pizzagate when there is no actual evidence to suggest that. Someone being "overtly lustful" is not proof of them being involved in such a despicable thing as pizzagate.

I'm a highly lustful person myself that doesn't mean I rape little children though or sexually abuse them. Just not attracted to children. People who are are sick in the head.

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Originally posted by Lestov16
As far as Trump's involvement, while I FEEL like he is involved, given his overtly lustful nature