"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
Why wouldn't Malak be able to fully heal himself from the captive Jedi? He's not replenishing his Force reserves, he's healing himself. Their "life-force" would be enough to heal his wounds and other issues. As for his actual reserves, he's able to draw off of the SF for that, like Bastila. Though I imagine the Jedi didn't hurt his force reserves either.
"The Star Forge corrupts what remains of their power and transfers the dark taint to me."
--Darth Malak (Knights of the Old Republic)
Remnants of an average Jedi's Force powers is not going to affect much of his health, to be honest. In fact, the Knights of the Old Republic Prima Guide states that "Malak uses them to add to his already formidable dark side power," not to necessarily heal himself. The official databanks state similar, saying he used it to replenish "his life force." The Jedi can actually hurt Darth Malak as well, and perhaps might even have. If Revan frees the Jedi captives using a powerful lightside power (which he canonically does), Darth Malak can then try to drain the pod, resulting in him losing some of his Force powers. Because logically, he is draining an area tainted and coated with lightside energies. Though I doubt he is dumb enough to do it again and again, of course. The Star Forge should have replenished some of his lost energies, however (based on the fight with Bastila Shan).
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That's because unlike you, I'm not going to state my theory as fact. I'll cover all ground, within reason, but I'm not going to say, "This happened."
The databanks do not say that Malak didn't constantly drain off the Jedi during their duel and amping him. There's no way that anyone with half a brain, nor with the accolade of "genius" would watch as someone roams around and drains from Jedi. And correct me, but doesn't Revan "canonically" kill Bendak Starkiller, since we're bringing game mechanics of Dark and Light into this?
Cool, haven't seen them, though I'd love to meet the many people who put Malak as an insurmountable challenge for most after losing multiple times to a no doubt exhausted Jedi. Also, Intrepid is comical support.
I was unaware that lightsabers needed to hit someone more than a few times to kill them. Obviously they aren't making him invincible, but unless it's actually healing him, he would have died well before even your own estimate.
Kotor Revan really wasn't much of a genius. Hell, neither was book Revan or TOR Revan imo. Darth Revan's personality was destroyed in his mind-wipe, he never regained that part of himself in my estimation.
For one thing, Kotor Revan ran right into ambushes an absurd number of times.
You serious? I was unaware I needed to teach someone how to count, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised given the fact that it's with you. (please log in to view the image)
Cutscenes are considered canonical on this forum, as well as nearly every other. In cutscenes he visibly drains them all together. And no, killing Bendak Starkiller is not the canonical lightside path.
Or perhaps he is more skilled then you expected?
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Nah, it could have healed him, but never to the levels like you are suggesting. Rather the Star Forge replenished his health really, not the Jedi.
"...the power of the Star Forge re-energizes me!"
--Bastila Shan
"Life force: the vital force or impulse of life; one's source of vitality, spirit, energy, and strength."
--The Dictionary
The Sith Emperor also drained the life force of Nathema, giving him immortality. Healing your wounds is not really what it is used for, to be honest. It rather deals with other aspects.
"Or, you can use any light side power on the bodies and malfunction the terminals themselves, thus stopping Malak from utilizing his drain life; he immediately staggers back and loses half of his Force points. Again, minor light side Force powers are too weak to affect the terminals. When Malak is finally cut down, he falls to his knees. You must destroy this evil galactic influence. Once this is complete, you can rest, filled with joy at the knowledge that Darth Malak no longer holds sway over the fate of the galaxy. Now the Republic and Sith will learn of a new master. Now you are the master!"
--Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Prima Guide
__________________ "There is only Revan. Only he can shape this galaxy as it is meant to be shaped."
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The use of Drain Life revitalizes the user, rejuvenating their stamina and vigor. The act of using drained Force energy to heal is a separate ability all together, known as Dark Healing. Speaking of which, Malak's Drain actually siphons both the life force and the force energies from the captive Jedi, effectively refilling both his stamina and force reserves, strengthening him.
He's also correct in his secondary statement, that by shielding the captive Jedi in what most accurately resembles a Wall of Light, Malak could actually exhaust himself in attempt to siphon energy from them. Revan can also destroy the pods, which limits Malak's resources. BTW, this leads me to believe that perhaps the defense against Force Drain is effectively to encase oneself in a Wall of Light...
And finally, he's also correct in saying that Darth Malak was not as helpless as he is made out to be. As he's already pointed out, the duel between Darth Revan and Darth Malak was noted as "desperate", which brings up the implication that even without additional benefits Malak was comparable to (Darth) Revan.
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You don't know how many Malak drained, using your reasoning that he actually ran to drain them all, before Revan started freeing them anymore than I do. Stating the number of them means nothing. It's never stated anywhere how many. Seriously, calm down.
The only one of those cutscenes that is guaranteed is the first when he explains it. Also the guides are canonical everywhere else except for when they disagree with your arguments? While all major decisions are obviously Light Sided, the idea that someone must always act a certain way in every situation is unrealistic.
Then he wouldn't be hurt in the first place. If Malak needs to drain them, then he obviously was.
Jul 24th, 2014 08:10 PM
I was unaware I needed to teach someone how to count, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised given the fact that it's with you.
Thanks Scribble!
