I don't get it..Nihilus without his drain isn't Nihilus. That's literally all he has and it's ONGOING. That is, it's a 24/7 drain that saps everyone's strength and turns them into mindless slaves. You might as well make a thread on "what what Sidious be without his Force lightning" or "what would Yoda be without his breakdancing in the club fighting style"?
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
His TK may be impressive, but he lost to the Exile.
Seriously, Exile got stomped by Darth Nyriss, WITH HELP!
The only argument you could really make is that Nihilus was overpowered by Visas Marr, and Canderous. By that time, Canderous was WAY past his prime, and Visas Marr, do I need to even say anything??
Or that her being a wound in the force may have changed things in her favor, which can't be proven, all that can be proven is that it makes her virtually invulnerable (seemingly) to Nihilus' drain.
Keep in mind, Meetra died at Scourge level at best, and not even Scourge at his best, just Revan Novel Scourge.
It's confirmed the entirety of Dromund Kaas is a nexus.
And of course if it was the other way around they would've lost. Surik being amped and Scourge being hindered doesn't make a gaping difference to Scourge being amped and Surik weakened, my friend.
I wonder if Nyriss could've replicated her feat off of DK. Scourge sucks ass in that novel, but assuming she's deprived of her amp the fight at least should've been a little harder for her to win. Damn Karpashyn and his love of nexus feats
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Nihilus was destroying the Exile and her team, even despite being severely weakened. He lost due to the severing of the bond between Visas and him, to be honest.
__________________ "There is only Revan. Only he can shape this galaxy as it is meant to be shaped."
Nah Nihilus who was severely weakened lost to the Exile, attempting to drain Meetra weakened him as did Visas drawing on her connection with him. Nihilus without drain TKed his entire goddamned fleet from orbit and held the Ravager together with pure willpower. He's a monster. Easily Vitiate level even without his Gigadrain.
"He... is too powerful... he... I... cannot hold him for long..."
―Visas Marr (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic: The Sith Lords)
"Get away from me - I don't need your help. Just leave me here."
―Canderous Ordo (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic: The Sith Lords)
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Description of the battle:
"A scene where the players are approaching Nihilus from behind, he doesn't even turn around as they advance down the bridge. Nihilus turns, raises his hand, and the entire party is raised into the air, similar to Force Crush. He speaks, his voice roaring, and the player should realize that Nihilus is far more powerful than they had believed. Nihilus lets player fall and get to her feet. Nihilus walks over to the player. Player kneels. As Nihilus reaches out with his power, he drains the player with vampiric energy, and then suddenly reels back, collapsing on the ground. Nihilus roars, ignites his lightsaber. Battle!
When Nihilus takes half-damage, he roars, blasting the player and any companions back across the bridge with an effect similar to the Force Wave power. Nihilus lets the player fall, yet Visas still rotates. There is silence - Nihilus has suddenly realized that Visas has changed. Visas still lies suspended in the air. Nihilus turns to face the player, who should be getting to his feet. Nihilus roars, hurling Visas across the room. Close-up on Nihilus, his voice roaring as power emanates from him."
―Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic: The Sith Lords (Cut Content)
__________________ "There is only Revan. Only he can shape this galaxy as it is meant to be shaped."
He only lost to Surik because his Force powers were significantly weakened after his bond with Visas got broken and after he attempted to drain a wound in the Force. The only thing we don't have any knowledge of is his skill as a duelist. Other than that, he's a powerhouse who not only has a stomping massive drain but also a TK equaled by few in the mythos.
Thanks Scribble!
Apr 27th, 2015 12:23 PM
