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Yoda's Vision from Season 6
Could Sidious handle an "in the zone" Anakin as easily as he did in Yoda's vision?
All the other feats in Yoda's vision seemed to be scaled accurately.
1. Dooku fried a bunch of Zabrak's with his lightning, so he could just as easily do that to a squad of clones.
2. Anakin beat Dooku quickly and decapitated him just like in the movies.
3. Yoda disarmed Sidious just like in the movies.
4. Yoda held off Sidious' lightning with tutaminis just like in the movies.
So how accurate is Sidious' feat of easily disposing of Anakin?
May 6th, 2015 01:26 AM
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Visions can be realistic in depiction of actions, not necessarily events.
It is a demonstration of disparity between Anakin Skywalker and Darth Sidious. And it fits with Yoda's assessment that Obi-Wan Kenobi wasn't strong enough to challenge Sidious.
May 6th, 2015 07:41 AM
NewGuy01
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RotS Anakin was stated to be far more powerful than his Season 5/6 counterpart, but obviously Sidious can still handle him.
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May 6th, 2015 12:31 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And it fits with Yoda's assessment that Obi-Wan Kenobi wasn't strong enough to challenge Sidious.
That's completely irrelevant considering Kenobi clearly wasn't strong enough to challenge Dooku either. But that had nothing to do with how Anakin fairs against Dooku.
May 6th, 2015 01:36 PM
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Zone Anakin speed blitzes Sidious in the alternate ending to the Ep III video game. That's as close as you'll get to an answer on that subject.
May 7th, 2015 05:29 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Visions can be realistic in depiction of actions, not necessarily events.
It is a demonstration of disparity between Anakin Skywalker and Darth Sidious. And it fits with Yoda's assessment that Obi-Wan Kenobi wasn't strong enough to challenge Sidious.
I still don't get why Yoda and Obi Wan didn't take on Sidious together, then travel together to Mustafar to take out Vader. Another strategic blunder by the Jedi!
May 8th, 2015 04:46 AM
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Obi-Wan would have been useless against Sidious, Yoda said as such.
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May 8th, 2015 04:47 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Zenwolf
Obi-Wan would have been useless against Sidious, Yoda said as such.
Plus, if Vader got away he would have just taken Sidious' place and have eventually become even more powerful (he said as much on Mustafar).
As it was, the plan worked out pretty well if not for Yoda losing to Sids' home court advantage.
May 8th, 2015 05:41 AM
Stigma
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Nevermind.
May 8th, 2015 03:14 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Zenwolf
Obi-Wan would have been useless against Sidious, Yoda said as such.
Yoda told Obi Wan that he was not strong enough to defeat Sidious, but it does not follow that Obi would be no help in a combined attack.
May 9th, 2015 05:06 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Hero of Python
Plus, if Vader got away he would have just taken Sidious' place and have eventually become even more powerful (he said as much on Mustafar).
As it was, the plan worked out pretty well if not for Yoda losing to Sids' home court advantage.
Jedi fights only take a few minutes, so it wouldn't much affect the timing of their arrival on Mustafar.
But, moreover, I don't think at that time Vader could have successfully ruled without Sidious. He was a callow idiot who made only stupid decisions and allowed himself to be manipulated. He was not emperor material.
He might have said on Mustafar he could do it, but he was always overestimating his own abilities.
May 9th, 2015 05:16 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Ace Hambone
Jedi fights only take a few minutes,
Jedi have dueled for hours, one council member during SWTOR fought his Sith counterpart for 3 day.
May 9th, 2015 05:34 PM
WildBantha88
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Kenobi is around Dookus level of skill. And Dooku can throw down with the Yoda. Hence he would be of help to Yoda. ABC logic ftw.
More proof is that Kenobi has been stated to be one of the few that can spar with Yoda, Kenobi has stalemated Maul who has thrown down with Sidious and Kenobi, on one occasion, beat Dooku who has thrown down with Yoda. So basically Kenobi could be of help to Yoda in a duel against the Sids
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May 9th, 2015 06:11 PM
Darth Luminous
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by NewGuy01
RotS Anakin was stated to be far more powerful than his Season 5/6 counterpart
Where was that stated?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Ace Hambone
Yoda told Obi Wan that he was not strong enough to defeat Sidious, but it does not follow that Obi would be no help in a combined attack.
Unless Sidious takes out Kenobi right away with the Force, similar to what Dooku did in ROTS.
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May 9th, 2015 06:26 PM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Hero of Python
Zone Anakin speed blitzes Sidious in the alternate ending to the Ep III video game. That's as close as you'll get to an answer on that subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-rP5iqx6T8
(1:00)
I don't think I'd call that a speed-blitz, so much as a cheap shot.
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May 9th, 2015 06:32 PM
FreshestSlice
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You can't really cheep shot people with precog. That being said, it'd never happen if Anakin actually tried to do it.
May 9th, 2015 06:35 PM
Galan007
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If that were the case, Vader wouldn't have been able to kill Palpatine in RotJ. /shrug
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May 9th, 2015 06:41 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by NewGuy01
RotS Anakin was stated to be far more powerful than his Season 5/6 counterpart, but obviously Sidious can still handle him.
Season 5 Anakin. Not Season 6 bro.
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