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Bettyboop
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Squall

Okay here we go again with Squall and the love thing. Squall is a loner by nature and duh we know he is a bit cold-so some people are-that's what makes him special. Tidus on the other hand is just like any hero-at least to me he is. -Squall is just so much more mysterious-knowing such little stuff about his past is what draws you to him in the first place-yeah I can understand that you think it was crazy for him to suddenly fall for Rinoa-but you forget-that it wasn't really sudden-I mean certain parts of the game Squall was thinking of her-trying to figure her out-and what not- It wasn't just sudden-
Second it really isn't about the love story it's about the character-in general-
And third-people like Squall for his distance ways while others like Tidus for his warmer ways-understandable-stop pointing out the obvious through-gesh


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Tidus, because he could perform Blitz Ace with 99, 999 damage per hit.


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Squall

Also must point out-why would Squall tell his feelings about Rinoa if he was a loner anyhow-


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I never liked Rinoa. Whiny, self-absorbed, clingy; all the traits I dislike in a person


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How is Tidus just like any other character?!? In almost every game you can find a character like squall...Ignorant to their past...."i dont want to let no one in" type of Character in almost every game! Gaurantee! "Mysterious" or ignorant anyone you... perfer is old! I mean bad things happen but life goes on! That what makes Tidus so unique!! And the love story makes up a big percentage of the Character! Okay and for the benifit of the doubt you are right about your third point i guess...


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Tide+us= People with clean clothes...... big grin stick out tongue


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Ok I'm going to interdict on Tidus's behalf since Kenshin isn't doing a very good job defending him. Basically FF-X was not just awesome for its Sphere grid enabling you to choose what abilities you want your character to learn and not have to junction like FF8. Tidus proved his worth by following his heart when he was with Yuna. Sure he started out as a crybaby, but that is because his father vanished 10 years ago without a trace leaving him alone. That would bug me a little bit too. Squall is too intropersonal and you learn very little about his past. He also isolated his feelings from Rinoa and then pulls a 180 when they go to space and she is posessed and is suddenly in love? Tidus also stood up and lead everyone in the most difficult times while people turned to Squall and designated him a leader.

Combat-wise I prefer Tidus's speed and his 255 stats I gave him from training. The max level of 100 in FF8 was too simple. Both characters have their advantages and disadvantages.


Like several people have said before, it takes time to get through to someone like Squall. And it didn't happen in space, he loved her when she went unconscious 'cause he realized he was a wreck without her. He wasn't suddenly in love, it built up over time and finally he realized "Hey, I love this girl." Things like that don't happen overnight. And for the record, the sphere grid was the worst idea ever in a FF game. Squall rules and Tidus is an idiot.


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Sphere Grid rules! It was simple and powerful.


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sphere grid sucked....i'm with arthas..i mean what he just said is true


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the sphere grid was awesome....It didnt take Tidus forever and a day to find out he loved Yuna...So i dont really think Tidus would be the Idiot in this situation....Tidus is It and squall is.......spit! laughing


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Draco69
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The Sphere Grid allowed you to develop your characters into anyway you want. Yuna could be fighter. Lulu could be a thief. Auron could be a white mage. It was much better than the previous level-up systems. When I finished the game all my characters had 255 for all their stats (except luck and evasion).

The opinions on Squall and Tidus are subjective. A person's personalities reflect their opinions. Perhaps a lot of people didn't like Tidus because he was an jock and had a free spirit.


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i...guess..your...kinda..right...sorta...But Tidus was Great!!! I dont like squall because he is like the average video game character except with a little salt on top...so repeatative but Tidus is fresh meat not too many characters like him...


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I hate Tidus and I'm glad he died...

Squall could own Tidus without even trying...


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The love story between Squall and Rinoa isn't an overnight thing. For most of his life Squall shut himself away from the world because the people who meant the most to him had dissapeared and he was terrified of of being hurt like that. Rinoa was the only person to challenge him in years. The qthers gave half hearted attempts but Rinoa constantly challenges him through the first and part of the second disc. For the first time Squall was looking at a person completley opposite to him. A person who defined her existance through her friends. By the end of disc 2 Squall realises that he can't continue without her so he picks her up, puts her on his back and walks to Esther. When she becomes a Sorceress not only does he save her from being launched into space, he says he's willing to kill anyone for her if she turns evil. The story is pretty deep if you look at it.


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And for the record, the sphere grid was the worst idea ever in a FF game. Squall rules and Tidus is an idiot.


If you've ever actually played FFX you would know that the Sphere Grid was awesome. Nothing beats teaching characters abilities by making spheres to raise stats and teach them abilities you want them to. Thanks to the Sphere Grid I was able to max out everyone's stats big grin

Tidus was no idiot. granted he had his fair share of times, but when something was wrong or something happened he didn't like, he questioned why. Tidus tried to make things better for everyone while still being selfless to Yuna's feelings. His bravery far exceeded anything Squall faced. Squall just rolled with everything and kept all of his thoughts to himself.

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Tidus, because he could perform Blitz Ace with 99, 999 damage per hit.


I have him doing 99,999 on any type of hitbig grin


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What else is so great about ffx is that it came out with a sequel....and Tidus comes Back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy Dance
And he is sooooooo worth it!!!!
Anything for tidus!


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If you've ever actually played FFX you would know that the Sphere Grid was awesome. Nothing beats teaching characters abilities by making spheres to raise stats and teach them abilities you want them to. Thanks to the Sphere Grid I was able to max out everyone's stats big grin

Tidus was no idiot. granted he had his fair share of times, but when something was wrong or something happened he didn't like, he questioned why. Tidus tried to make things better for everyone while still being selfless to Yuna's feelings. His bravery far exceeded anything Squall faced. Squall just rolled with everything and kept all of his thoughts to himself.



I have him doing 99,999 on any type of hitbig grin


I have played FFX, I owned it since it came out and the sphere system is not a good idea, just like the junction system wasn't. They were both innotave concepts but X's sphere grid is useless unless you have an almost unlimited amount of paitience. VIII's junction system restricted the use of magic. Both are good ideas on paper but really knock down the amount of customers when implemented.

And yes I realise that Tidus did have stand out qualities. But he was also a whiner, (though considering his circumstance he did have just cause.) He did many stupid things, at certain points it was like watching a child. His personality grated on me and becaause of that I couldn't relate to him. He is a perfect stereotype of a surfer jock (blonde hair, tanned skin, all optimisim and no brains.) For these reasons I will always choose Squall as his superior and Cloud as the Greatest FF hero of all.


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In my opinion, Yes cloud is the best ff chracter so far but Squall can NEVER be superior to Tidus NEVER!! EVER EVER NEVER


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i agree Cloud is the best FF hero of all.. nothing even comes close to him.. But i mean come on.... Playstation needed to come out with something new so they came out with the sphere grid which really doesn't make much sense in making and the only reason why the attacks were 99.999 was because since it was on a new console they thought they should change it but it wasn't a good idea. Physical traits Squall wins..... Fighting wise-Squall wins..... Appearance-Squall wins... Personality traits- Squall wins.... Storyline between the games- FF8 wins... Characters- FF8 wins... Name wise-Tidus wins....overall Squall is still a better character....


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I have played FFX, I owned it since it came out and the sphere system is not a good idea, just like the junction system wasn't. They were both innotave concepts but X's sphere grid is useless unless you have an almost unlimited amount of paitience. VIII's junction system restricted the use of magic. Both are good ideas on paper but really knock down the amount of customers when implemented.

And yes I realise that Tidus did have stand out qualities. But he was also a whiner, (though considering his circumstance he did have just cause.) He did many stupid things, at certain points it was like watching a child. His personality grated on me and becaause of that I couldn't relate to him. He is a perfect stereotype of a surfer jock (blonde hair, tanned skin, all optimisim and no brains.) For these reasons I will always choose Squall as his superior and Cloud as the Greatest FF hero of all.


Good point!


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