And what happens if Superman makes multiples of himself with Torqasm Vo, or attacks astrally? Or like I said-- takes out a planet sized chunk of the 'featureless enviroment'. Face it, Flash winning completely relies on Superman either not reacting or trying to race him. Which are both things that are NOT going to happen. Superman has a billion ways to beat Flash. Flash has one of POSSIBLY beating him. Sure, Flash COULD win, a couple out of a hunded maybe. But with the luck Flash's have it's not likely.
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Dont believe what you said about Jay entering the speed force and coming back as pure energy. Proof woujld be nice.
Where in that summary do you see it state that Jay entered the speedforce at all? You were the one who said he did it to defeat The Rival, but youhave not proven that. Ive never heard of Jay entering the speed force on his own without the use of the cosmic tradmil. You say otherwise. Please prove that.
First off, ive never said that Barry is way faster than Superman. I just said hes faster. I did imply that Wally is way faster than Barry, thus making him way faster than Superman. The only reason they are so close in the races are to make them interesting. Welcome to comics, as someone once told me.
Buy the comic, or just go to the comic store and look at it. I don't have a scanner, so either you can live in doubt or go prove me right... One way or another, I'm not kidding. My knowledge of DC comics is hard pressed to rival and I think a lot of people on the forum already know that.
And what if Wally goes and gets kryptonite? Whats a planet sized chunk out of the planet going to do? Flash would already be on the other side of the globe lol. You would consider Superman destroying the planet just to get a victory? Seems like youre getting despirate. Superman would have no choice but not to react, due to all he kinetic energy being stolen. Superman has a billion ways to beat Flash? Debate over.
Flash runs the space-time continuum till the end of time. Superman is dead and he isnt. There, Flash wins.
And how about in Sacrifice when Superman reacted faster than Wally could? Or the time he did the caculations and stopped him? Or any number of other times Superman has outclassed Flash?
It's not just the races, Superman except when he means to not be is always right alongside Flash when he's running.
Superman flies in and out of blackholes to warp through space, proving he's faster than light speed inside of a vaccuum, against infinite pull of gravity and even inside of a quantum singularity. You may know your Flash's in theory, but you don't know your Superman.
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Also? How will he run and get Kryptonite in or run 'to the end of time' in a featureless enviroment? Don't be silly. lol.
If we're going to play that, Superman dons the Kryptonian Battle Armor, and it's all over.
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Re: The Flash vs Superman
I've noticed a couple of people mention how powerful Superman will be with "Complete bloodlust. All personality traits suppressed."
Has anybody thought what Wally might be capable of? He has never, as far as I know (and I am talking under correction here) let his wild side take over. We all know Superman is a nice guy but Wally is so far beyond nice it makes me wanna puke, sometimes (look at my sig, I like the Dark Side).
So what would a god of speed, pushed over the edge, with unlimited speed and everything that goes with it, be capable of? If he doesn't care what happens to him, no holds barred, no holding back, with just one purpose in mind - Superman's blood.
Have any of you any idea of what he might be capable of?
Why do you think the writers keep on holding Wally back, by making him a super nice guy, by making us believe he can never use the Speed Force to its full potential?
Because he would rule this universe and every other universe, as well
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How does Superman outmaneuver Flash?
Is he faster than the Flash? Remember, they are not thinking rationally, so there are no tactics - "pure bloodlust" remember?
So, basically, what we are trying to establish is - if these two go head to head, who will survive?
Will Flash be able to vibrate through Superman and make him explode? Will Flash be able to steal Superman's speed, therefore making him a target that is in effect immobile, compared to the speed he is moving? How long will Superman's endurance last - forever?
So what it comes down to is immovable object meets irresistible force.
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