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"Only Sith deal in absolutes"
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Fishy
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You are IMO taking that quote of context..

"If you're not with me, you're my enemy."

Thats the absolute, black and white. Right and wrong nothing more.

Jedi tend to realise that there are grays out there, they don't kill everybody that doesn't agree with them. They don't rage wars to spread their idea's across the galaxy just to defend their goals. Thats the absolute here.. With me or against me, just black and white no grey.

Obi was right when he said that, because Jedi don't think like that. Of course they are against their enemy they are the enemy, but unlike the Sith they are not against the guy on the street that doesn't take sides. They would never kill them, Sith would.


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darth cretin
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Hmm i see what you are saying Padme, but think the person above this post put much simpler terms my argument.. understanding the grey areas, and no offing joe schmoe on the street for disagreeing and all.

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Originally posted by Fishy
You are IMO taking that quote of context..

"If you're not with me, you're my enemy."

Thats the absolute, black and white. Right and wrong nothing more.

Jedi tend to realise that there are grays out there, they don't kill everybody that doesn't agree with them. They don't rage wars to spread their idea's across the galaxy just to defend their goals. Thats the absolute here.. With me or against me, just black and white no grey.

Obi was right when he said that, because Jedi don't think like that. Of course they are against their enemy they are the enemy, but unlike the Sith they are not against the guy on the street that doesn't take sides. They would never kill them, Sith would.


Top man. thats exactly the point. cool

"If you're not with me, you're my enemy." that is the absolute.

you dont have to read into anything its right there in your face.


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Re: "Only Sith deal in absolutes"

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Originally posted by LandoSpeeder2
"Only Sith deal in absolutes." I don't like this at all. This should have been cut from the movie.


1. Sidious said evil or whatever is a point of view, kind of like, their really isn't such a thing as good and bad, just point of views, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that the opposite of absolute?

2. If Jedi doesn't deal with absolutes then why are they saying the Sith is evil, and they seem to think their is right and wrong, the Jedi is basically based on absolutes.

3. This pretty much slams Christians, considering Christians deal in absolutes.


Perfectly logical standpoint. The Sith think linear while the Jedi wage both sides and decide on the most logical outcome. Therefore Yoda was correct when he said that.

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mtryder
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I don't feel like wading through three pages, so this might have been said already.

In saying that "Only Sith deal in absolutes", Obi-Wan is dealing in absolutes. Pretty stupid of him.

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darth cretin
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mtryder: it's not stupid of him at all because stating a fact, i.e. acknowldging that there are absolutes, is not the same as dealing in them, i.e. making your decisions based only on the absolutes.

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SS_181st_Snow
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And here's my totally pointless, out-of-the-blue thought for this thread. If Sith deal in absolutes, they would not make good Car Salesmen....at all...Jedi would though. One wave of that hand and they can have their price met.


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