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How can a non force user duel with a force user?
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Zamp
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This is irrelevant to the point I was making. I never talked about regular humans in relation to what anyone said.



I agree with you completely- that statement was kind of my point. I was pointing out that Knightfa11 was, once again, completely wrong. The response wasn't aimed at you.


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I don't think Dooku would survive against numerous blaster-wielding opponents by picking them up as slowly as he did with Obi-Wan. With blaster bolts coming at him from every direction, he's gonna be hit by one of them if he's taking his time with TK.


Well, that's why I said en masse one could lose. I was referring to a one-on-one situation.


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What if the non-Force user is simply better with a blaster than the Jedi is their lightsaber or their powers?


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Then they're dead. Take that Coleman Trebor!


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What if the non-Force user is simply better with a blaster than the Jedi is their lightsaber or their powers?


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'Kay, all those smilies tend to piss people off, you know.


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'Kay, all those smilies tend to piss people off, you know.


oh, okay.


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What if the non-Force user is simply better with a blaster than the Jedi is their lightsaber or their powers?


Impossible. Snapping someone's neck or FP'ing them against a wall hard enough to shatter bones > any blaster. Faster to, since only a thought is required.

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Anytime a force-user loses to a non-force user it's either PIS or the force user got surprised.


I suppose that if a Jedi is ambushed, is autistic, is surrounded by Ysalamiri and does not have any force powers, he could lose. Of if he walks into a room and the guy already has his gun pointed at him. Otherwise, never.


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^What would you consider Grievous and Durge?

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You make it sound as if all Jedi are able to display such power. Dooku didn't break any of Kenobi's bones when he hurled him across the room. I will admit that Kenobi is a Jedi target, but he is still human.


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^What would you consider Grievous and Durge?


Durge is a gen'dai an immortal, super human alien species. Grevious thanks to CIS military technology is also superhuman.


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Then they're dead. Take that Coleman Trebor!


Coleman was too focused on Dooku and he obviously underestimated the non force sensitives surrounding Dooku unfortunately one of them happened to be a mando mercenary who was a good shot and had higher powered blasters.

Non force sensitives can take Jedi one on one with blasters they have to be sure to keep their distance and hope the Jedi is distracted (or have jet packs just in case).

If not they get their heads loped off ala Jango vs Mace sad.


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^What would you consider Grievous and Durge?


Durge is immortal, I woudl consider GG what happened when he fought Mace.

GG: I WILL KILL J00!

Mace: *force crush*

QED for GG.

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You make it sound as if all Jedi are able to display such power. Dooku didn't break any of Kenobi's bones when he hurled him across the room. I will admit that Kenobi is a Jedi target, but he is still human.


Yeah, but he knocked him out cold. The battle was over for Kenobi at that point, it would be for anybody.


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It's entirely possible to overwhelm a Jedi's senses. They're mortals and make mistakes/get tired.


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It shouldn't last long enough for their senses to get overwhelmed.


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Like I said in the first page of this, there are species and beings out there with genetic enhancements, prosthetics etc. And there's something to be said for highly adavnced training and weaponry. A Jedi can/will/and has made mistakes, got tired---for whatever reason. Be it a lesser connection with the Force, poor/incomplete/wrong type of training, situation-determined circumstances, unforseen extenuating factors.

There's a myriad of reasons why Jedi---mortal, organic beings---can be defeated.


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I suppose that if a Jedi is ambushed, is autistic, is surrounded by Ysalamiri and does not have any force powers, or is barely force-sensitive, he could lose. Of if he walks into a room and the guy already has his gun pointed at him. Otherwise, never.


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Wow, so much for Jedi not being called Gods.


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Eh, they're only gods when compared to normal people.

Batman would kill a few.


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Step one: Allow them to get close to you

Step two: Shove granade down Jedi's trousers

Step three: Run away

Step four: Stick finger's in ears and wait

Step five: Point and laugh. This might be a good time to divulge the secrets of you evil plan. Or your grandma's secret recipe.


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