...that is the proof that was supposedly posted "hundreds of times"? Right, I'm done. For those who want to show it to me (as if it exists after all the begging and asking for it) send me a pm (private message). Of course I'm expecting what's to be sent to be non-official b$ as usual (once again, something with a domain of "capcom.com" can still fit that description. This should be kept in mind).
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I notice the same guys are arguin' wit the same people over the same shit, does it ever change?
DSZ is like 100% right and BTW, er feat I stated above came from the Darkstalkers Graphic File Encyclopedia, not the UDON comic. If anyone needs scans I will post them later, and no where in the encyclopedia does it say that Pyron severed his power. That's like sayin' when Goku powers down, he removes the super Saiyin from within. That's stupid and until peeps can show proof of that claim, it shall remain so. None of his opponents in this thread can even scratch Demetri, even before his bout wit Pyron. He stomps.
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Also, this will be my last time ever postin this shit on this forum. For hatahz who want to doubt canon ability shown in the UDON comics, here you are.
"According to Udon everything they write and draw has to get the okay from Capcom of Japan. They have to submit a synopsis and script and get the okay from the bosses overseas. This means they have to be faithful to the source material and mindful of the way they present the universe."
Thank you very much Saikyo Kid, Thats more than enough proof.
I will say this Shutter Shack, The proof is in Street Fighter Eternal, why don't you go and by the book? I cannot redistribute licensed information, so you'll have to spend money.
As for the rest, my only real argument here was Udon's statement, and that goes for any of Capcom's lisences, However, the feats mentioned, as Saikyo pointed out to you, is actually part of the videogame's own story, you cannot be any more official than that. Darkstalkers Graphic File Encyclopedia is the most up-to-date source available direct from Capcom, even moreso that All About Capcom.
Btw that evidence is not outlining canon in Udon comics or abilities, it simply states that they have to get permission before they are allowed to distribute a product with Capcom material involved. Nowhere does it say that its canon or that the abilities are canon....
And still this does not give Demitri any credible advantage in this fight, him absorbing Pyron means nothing if there is no real direct canon on what it enables him to do other than fan assumptions. Ive not seen Demitri move at any high speeds, or take any large amount of punishment beyond all of those presented here.
Also cant Alex just absorb him/infect him with his virus?
"This means they have to be faithful to the source material and mindful of the way they present the universe."
They can't misrepresent the characters, which means, you can't have the Ryu or Talbain blowin' up the earth. They have to stick close to the actual canon. I don't see how anyone can attempt to argue against what I posted and not look like an idiot.
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That doesnt mean they are canon, they simply have to be faithful to what is canon. Technically if their doing things with characters not already shown in previous canon then they are playing some liberties or you misunderstand their contract. Either way, this is not a statement of canon even if they do have to stick to what is already canon. This is simply a matter of Capcom asking "make it believable to whats already canon" nothng stated there that says "Udon comics are canon" at all. I think your seeing what you want to see and adding some
No because Demitri has only absorbed an energy being, absorbing flesh and blood the same way has not happened. I guess being a vamp he could drink blood? lol, well he can do so if he wants but he will end up infected. I doubt theres any way Demitri could survive the infection even if he could absorb the guy.
This is riciculously spiteful. There's simply no way the team can resist Count Chocula's delicious breakfast cereal. Maybe if you replace Alex with Boo Berry they'd have a shot, but even then it's shaky.
You somewhat have a point, however, canon or not, the feats within those comics are within the source character's (Demitri from the DS games) power limit, and hence, they can be replicated by that game character.
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But if its non canon then its irrelevant even if it is plausible. Which means it may as well be a fan-fiction when comparing official data in a debate. A fan could do exactly the same thing, create a Demitri fan-fiction involving him doing things plausable within his power level but it could never be used in a debate, as canon or as a serious gauge of what he can actually do. Thats what Udon comics sounds like to me.
This becomes irrelevant in the face of the fact that the original and current production team at Capcom have stated that it is so. So yourentire argument becomes invalid in the face of that
I do not know if it is canon or not, but according to DS (and Capcom?), it is.
Even if it isn't, since it's within their power limit, we obviously know they CAN do that feat.
You also said it yourself, we cannot use it as a proper gauge, but in this case, it can only go one way, up (i.e. better), as the feats in the comics are within their abilities.
Hence, if someone says that Demitri did X (eg. tanked a planet-destroying blast) in the comic, they may be wrong as far as canon goes, but Demitri is powerful enough in canon to tank X.
Also, feats aren't the sole thing.
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Actually, an overwhelming majority of events in the comic did happen. In fact, out of the 6 issues so far, the things that have been shown in the comics that weren't mentioned in the game don't even conflict with the actual canon at all and are mostly fan service. Meanin' that Capcom can easily make theses areas canon and not even mess up the story one bit.
UDON is basically showin' the readers what a nearly 20 year old game would look like as a comic in the new millennium. Every piece of background info and the back stories are indeed canon, that much is certain.
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They do not conflict with the actual canon? I am surprised you cant understand why I am having trouble with agreinge with udon being canon or close to it when you say things like this. Make these areas canon?
Certain yet youve still not shown me something claiming directly that Capcom consider it canon, simply that Udon have to portray whats already canon as true to the fiction. That still does not make it canon, merely following the guidelines of what is already canon.
I am still missing something here, where does it directly state udon is canon? all I am seeing is that they have to stay true to canon, it does not mean they themselves are canon.
Regardless I am argueing this for the sake that this is still not clear, the more important questions are is that if it was 100% canon, what feat has he even performed worth mentioning in these comics?
I thought he faded and died because he broke a piece of Makai and becaus Makai was technically part of Belial it was like tearing off a piece of yourself which harmed him. And what feats does this attack from Belial have? and he didnt just tank it....he was pretty much destroyed by it and was surviving barely. He was hiding away in his castle and fooling humans into coming in just to drink their blood, thats how low his powerlevel was, he was not much better than the typical minor vampire in old tales.
Either way, what are Demitris real feats as of now? this is I assume current Demitri, what has he actually done? or is this all assumption and guess work.....
The one that struck Demitri was a weakened version of the same attack that obliterated Jedah the first time.
It was this same attack that tore Demitri's castle out of Makai (hence the tearing out a peice of yourself bit)
I know of no other Vampire that could take on a cosmic entity like Pyron, or fight on par with Jedah. He drew even with Morrigan on more than one occasion, and I think he may or may not have lost to Donovan... I cannot recall at the moment...
So technically, the highest feat of this blast was tearing a castle free of the landmass that is Makai? I assume we dont know the exact size of the piece of land but as of yet, I am not overly impressed....Kratos could break a castle to its foundations given some time to implement his strength and I am sure Mercer could as well in his larger and heavier forms.
But he didnt take on Pyron at full form, Pyron is apprently taking on a far less powerful form. Not many of these characters that you mension have feats of fighting prowess and Ive had no details of these fights, we do not even know how they fought do we?
1. Your not makin' any sense. My point was, nothin' UDON did was any different from what Capcom did for the most part. UDON only took liberties when it was okay to do so. Example, Talbain meets up wit Felecia and they travel together, in the comic. Talbain and Felecia's stories are so vague in the game that this could have happened and the original story would not change. That's about the only thing UDON does that's not followin' canon, they allow certain characters to meet each other. Capcom has never once said who met who wit most of the cast, so UDON decided to do that. The meet ups are not canon as of yet but they still don't conflict with the story Capcom already established. UDON follows Capcom story almost exactly. But since you know very little, you don't know how the games play out. You should just be quiet and stay out of things you don't know about.
2. 99% of the catz who see what your doin' will say your bein' a stubborn jackass who has a vendetta wit DS. Just go away...
3. Lame strawman, no one is sayin' that UDON is canon. They are portrayin' previous established canon in comic form. It has been established already that the abilities shown in the comics and not the events themselves are canon. What is so hard to grasp, why can't you understand somthin' so simple?
4. Demetri hasn't done anything in the comics, which is why I can't understand why you wanna argue about this. Every feat I named comes directly from the game. Out of 6 comics, Demitri has only appeared on about 10 pages throughout the series.
5. Belial died not cuz he broke off a piece of Makai, he died cuz he removed it from existence by blowing a hole into the dimension. He made a hole in the fabric of time and space and sent Demitri through it, castle and all. Belail's attack was so dense and powerful that it tore open the fabric of time and space like a wet paper towel. Belail is not just the land mass, HE IS time and space. With no way to close the rift, it became an open wound. He made "The Gate" bigger. Also, this is the same attack that killed Jedah 50 years previously, but only it was juiced up cuz he wanted to kill Jedah. Belial never meant to kill Demetri, there was no chance of him dying. He just wanted to banish him. It takes an attack that powerful to halt Demitri, and that's prePyron. None of these characters stand a chance. Also, Demetri doesn't need to drink blood to gain power, he only drinks it cuz it tastes good. He can heal all on his own, so he doesn't NEED to lure humans at all.
6. The feats I named earlier will blow all 3 of Demetri's opponents out of the water X 1000. And those feats come from the Graphic File.
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