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Super Marie 64
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I don't think even the player can be focused on where the ghosts are always at. Otherwise takes the surprise out of the game. And I assume Pacman smells the fruit and decides to go nom nom nom.


There are four ghosts.

Link is alone.

Pacman is the hunter here, not the hunted.

Not being able to focus on all of them, doesn't mean he doesn't know where they are. I've taken a great amount of levels throughout my years in Pacman, many, many points, but the skills of the player can not be used to gauge the capacity of the character.

To be abundantly clear with my case: Just because you know where the ghosts are, doesn't mean they can't eventually corner you. They are more, and move randomly. There will come a point when you are cornered, not out of lack of attention but as a result of random events conspiring against you.


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Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
1. Former since it's simpler.

2. Should I take it down a notch? Some other TKer?

3. So is Peppy. stick out tongue

4. Maneuvers. And he has a way of outsmarting Pacman's nose.


Then a win as long as he can keep it up. At lv30 moving your whole arm to control the blocks is murder compared to pressing a button.

Yeah, so far its like playing wii tennis vs a supercomputer.

..... touché.

For instance?

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Farore's Wind?


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3. So is Peppy. stick out tongue


Peppy's just a coach here. There's only so much you can teach, and only at X pace. Fox knows this by heart, all Link has is Peppy's voice and a brief investigation.


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Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I already assumed that Fox might not die in the explosion. But he will die via the lack of oxygen.

Don't remember seeing that either. All I remember seeing is that Pacman will move at a slightly faster pace than Link. By the way, "slightly" does not have a standard unit of measurement. And no, I don't. Did you give him a can of bean-o or something too that I don't know about because you didn't specify?

12 tons? That's an interesting number. Where did you get that?

See? I don't remember that at all.


He'll be beamed out in the nick of time.

Pacman likes to eat. Link is edible. No, but I did in a round about way give him some things to use.

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Originally posted by Super Marie 64
There are four ghosts.

Link is alone.

Pacman is the hunter here, not the hunted.

Not being able to focus on all of them, doesn't mean he doesn't know where they are. I've taken a great amount of levels throughout my years in Pacman, many, many points, but the skills of the player can not be used to gauge the capacity of the character.

To be abundantly clear with my case: Just because you know where the ghosts are, doesn't mean they can't eventually corner you. They are more, and move randomly. There will come a point when you are cornered, not out of lack of attention but as a result of random events conspiring against you.


Pacman can only smell Link when he is too close. Would have thought that was enough to convey the meaning that Pacman cannot at all times know where Link is.

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Then a win as long as he can keep it up. At lv30 moving your whole arm to control the blocks is murder compared to pressing a button.

Yeah, so far its like playing wii tennis vs a supercomputer.

..... touché.

For instance?


It's actually murder for another reason. See Tetirs Effect.

..... It can be the enemy A.I on Wii Tennis then. Level 1 for simplicity. It is controlling the bar.

Fruit?

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Peppy's just a coach here. There's only so much you can teach, and only at X pace. Fox knows this by heart, all Link has is Peppy's voice and a brief investigation.


Link also happens to be the fastest learner ever. He'll get the gist of the ship in no time. Peppy is there to help with some advice and intel on how Fox tends to fight.


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Wind against Pacman? Would be hard to set that one up.


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Wind against Pacman? Would be hard to set that one up.
Set way point near power pellet, wait, when Pacman is between you and waypoint, snatch pellet, teleport, stab.


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Link has no magic vs Pacman.


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Pacman can only smell Link when he is too close. Would have thought that was enough to convey the meaning that Pacman cannot at all times know where Link is.


Pacman can turn on a dime, and where does this "smell" part come from? He doesn't have a nose. Or are you altering Pacman for the sake of the thread?


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Link has no magic vs Pacman.
Oh, you're ghey then. Meh.


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I see a nose. And no, am respecting limitations of the old games. Besides, in the original Pacman he doesn't seem to have eyes either.

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Oh, you're ghey then. Meh.


He can still win. :O


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By throwing his sword so far left it comes from the right?


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Proof that Link is edible?


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By throwing his sword so far left it comes from the right?


Nope. By stripping.


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He'll be beamed out in the nick of time.

Pacman likes to eat. Link is edible. No, but I did in a round about way give him some things to use.

ScreamPaste.


Lame.

You expected fruit to do that. Fail.

ScreamPaste's calculations were for a bolt of lightning, I believe. I think you just accepted that it's lightning.


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Lame.

You expected fruit to do that. Fail.

ScreamPaste's calculations were for a bolt of lightning, I believe. I think you just accepted that it's lightning.


Why fail again?

?

ScreamPaste calculations were for a spherically shaped electric attack. Not lightning. :O

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I see a nose. And no, am respecting limitations of the old games. Besides, in the original Pacman he doesn't seem to have eyes either.



He can still win. :O


While I can't see the image, I assume it's the art for the arcade. While I bow to that presentation, there are still a few problems that challenge your poor conclusion:

There's no indication that it's his sense of smell that discover the cherry, and not some other awareness. Can you smell ghosts? And he knows of the cherry the instant it appears, so smell is an unlikely conclusion.

In addition, "cover art" can just as well be simply made to appeal, and doesn't necessarily tell the truth. It's just there to be cute, since he doesn't look at all like that in the game.


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While I can't see the image, I assume it's the art for the arcade. While I bow to that presentation, there are still a few problems that challenge your poor conclusion:

There's no indication that it's his sense of smell that discover the cherry, and not some other awareness. Can you smell ghosts? And he knows of the cherry the instant it appears, so smell is an unlikely conclusion.

In addition, "cover art" can just as well be simply made to appeal, and doesn't necessarily tell the truth. It's just there to be cute, since he doesn't look at all like that in the game.


It is actually a 3d rendering of Pacman. Sort of like how a 3D Link proves that Link has fingers and such.

The alternatives are: Hearing it, when fruit doesn't exactly make a sound. Or giving him a birds eye view of the labyrinth, which is the players perspective. The latter is the one you prefer though it seems improbable. I don't understand why Pacman would be able to see where everything is, including himself. He can technically even see his death.

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Isnt this like how a player controlled character can react to something behind them only due to the players view? Pacman probably doesnt sense, smell or see how in our view, just running along hoping not to run into a ghost.


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1. Link likely clears Tetris.

2. M2 TK > Link's sword swings

3. Can't speak for SpaceWar.

4. LOLSPITE. He gets eaten by Pacman.

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Proof that Link is edible?




^ It's in his face

~ The power-ups will at the very least turn him edible. Pac-man's faster, and knows where the power-ups are located.


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