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Esau Cairn
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Just read that part that "explains" how he ends up on Mars. It's pretty vague, but interesting. It might be a spoiler, though. I hope they stay true to this: [SPOILER - highlight to read]: He's being pursued by Indians and hides in a cave. He wakes up and can't move, so it makes it seem like they've drugged him with some gas. He then has some sort of out-of-body experience where he is looking at himself and then he looks toward the heavens and is suddenly transported to Mars because he has an affinity for war. So it sounds like we're not supposed to know if it's a dream or some sort of acid trip or he died or what...

Hahaha... I love it. laughing


The other version, I vaguely recall (from having read the stories over 25 years ago) isn't set in Western times ie: cowboys & Indians.

It's more like 1940's & John Carter's living in the city....
From memory : [SPOILER - highlight to read]: He builds a prototype telescope & "discovers" Mars. Whilst observing Mars he becomes aware that it is inhabited with life forms who appear to be at war with each other.
Then someone on Mars discovers that John is watching them & he is then transported to their planet & finds himself in the midst of battle.


I think the reason for the 2 versions was due to Burroughs re-writing the John Carter stories as it became popular.

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I think the reason for the 2 versions was due to Burroughs re-writing the John Carter stories as it became popular.


Ah. Interesting! That's probably the one they'll go with for the movie, then. It makes better "real-world" sense, as much as sci-fi can. [SPOILER - highlight to read]: An ambiguous drug-induced hallucination doesn't sound very Disney. lol. Sucks, though, cuz that's the better one to me.. haha. But I guess they both have kind of an Evil Dead sort of feel (speaking of re-writing things...)

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I have the feeling this movie is going to bomb hard. It needs to be marketed better.


It's three months from release. Expect them to push hard starting at Christmas and the next few months. I see the teaser poster in the theatres.


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Just read that part that "explains" how he ends up on Mars. It's pretty vague, but interesting. It might be a spoiler, though. I hope they stay true to this: [SPOILER - highlight to read]: He's being pursued by Indians and hides in a cave. He wakes up and can't move, so it makes it seem like they've drugged him with some gas. He then has some sort of out-of-body experience where he is looking at himself and then he looks toward the heavens and is suddenly transported to Mars because he has an affinity for war. So it sounds like we're not supposed to know if it's a dream or some sort of acid trip or he died or what...

Hahaha... I love it. laughing


The movie may make some changes there; maybe a dimensional doorway like the ones to Narnia. I read that passage in the book, and Carter narrates that part in the cave where the Indians don't come in because they feel a dark presence behind Carter; he feels it too but can't explain it, only that it makes someone afraid. Kind of vague.

But nothing like in the novel that preceded John Carter by a few years - Lieutenant Gullivar Jones: His Vacation. Striking similarities; another former Civil War soldier gets transported to Mars, but he gets there by magic carpet! You put that on screen, no one will buy it.


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The movie may make some changes there; maybe a dimensional doorway like the ones to Narnia.


I hope not, that would be gay as hell. I'd much prefer Esau's explanation...

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From memory : [SPOILER - highlight to read]: He builds a prototype telescope & "discovers" Mars. Whilst observing Mars he becomes aware that it is inhabited with life forms who appear to be at war with each other.
Then someone on Mars discovers that John is watching them & he is then transported to their planet & finds himself in the midst of battle.


I hope Disney doesn't gay it up. It looks fun on the trailer. Oh, and I'm really loving the way the book is written. He's a great writer.

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In this video, the director says he is "mysteriously transported to Mars." So at least they're keeping it mysterious. I hope he takes a bite of a particularly potent 'shroom. laughing out loud


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I'm pretty psyched about this. I finished reading A Princess of Mars. I'll be moving to The Gods of Mars soon, I think. It's pretty great. Love his writing and it's a pretty moving premise, so I'm anxious to see if they keep the core or the heart of the story intact. The trailers look good, I think. Of course, I'd probably prefer that it would be an R-rated adventure, cuz the stories are written somewhat graphically, but with a $250 million budget and coming from Disney, that's probably unrealistic.. heh. But it hasn't be rated yet, so we'll see...


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saw the 2nd trailer during sherlock holmes.. i didn't like the 1st trailer, but the 2nd one piqued my interest..


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Holy shit, this is gonna f*cking rock. Although the CGI looks a little "iffy." But here's a really nice TV Spot trailer... eek! blink


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Japanese trailer with some new scenes

http://www.superherohype.com/news/a...ohn-carter-hits


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Nice, find sir. (At first I thought I might resist watching it, but what the hell, I've read the book at this point, I don't really mind.) Cool, looks like he gets to Mars by [SPOILER - highlight to read]: some sort of contraption he stumbles upon..?, which isn't exactly true to the book, but I guess I can dig it. I expected that to get changed. It looks like it is staying pretty true to the book, though.

And you know what, though? I already want a sequel, cuz the second book starts out really badass. This could probably turn out to be a multi-film sci-fi/action/fantasy epic. And I hope it does. But there you go, I've probably already jinxed it... erm


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I'm pretty effin' psyched about this. I think it's gonna rock. The trailers are really nicely done, which is probably a good sign. I think the director has got some skillz. Check out this little TV spot...



And I thought this picture looked fu*king NICE...

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I still predict this movie is going to bomb. I have heard absolutely zero public buzz on this.


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Well the timing of release is the critical point.

I mean Avengers in April & Batman in July...does anyone know when this is hitting the big screen?

I also think naming the movie John Carter was a bad idea from a marketing point of view.
It hints neither at action nor fantasy...

"DADDY DADDY, I want to see John Carter."
That just screams STRANGER DANGER!!!

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I mean Avengers in April & Batman in July...does anyone know when this is hitting the big screen?


Comes out March 9th. Though I don't think they had a rating for it until just recently. The Official Site says PG-13 now. That might be why they've been hesitant to do much heavy marketing.


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When I first came upon this movie name, I thought it was a Western. Took me to see the trailer to know that's it's spacey. Saw the trailer attached to Girl With A Dragon Tattoo... so-so.

I agree, this will tank if Disney doesn't step up the marketing. This could actually have moments of excitement in it, but you wouldn't know unless you're a fan or have time to fiddle around the movie forums. Which not everyone does.


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but you wouldn't know unless you're a fan or have time to fiddle around the movie forums. Which not everyone does.


I'm neither

yet i'm still interested in this movie.


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Good for you, Kazenji.


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yet another useless post from Blaxican have fun doing your trolling.


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