Why's it so startling that prime can beat cap here? Kinetix amped upon an entire universe's magic did jack shit against prime as did mordru. I find it hilarious that the same people who claim that DOV spectre was at skyfather level since shazam beat him but now suddenly he's an abstract.
^His Power level fluctuated. IIRC he became more powerful the more magic he absorbed. He should be in the Abstract Category imho, about Galactus+ Level. Since he beat everyone, Nabu, Phantom Stranger or Shazam (who are all Skyfather or of higher level). DOV Billy was Skyfather+ I think, or Elder God level, since he put up a fight, a better one then Odin against Galactus, but still there was no hope for him to win there.
GA Prime was operating on an almost similar level like Billy, just a notch below Monarch and DOV Bill. He could hang there for a while, due to his magic resistance, but Billis fist, thought amped by magic should still be a physical force that strike Superman Prime and theys should hurt. For me it's a matter whose amp will go down faster. Personally I think without outer disturbances that CM amp will hold longer. If Prime is becomes aware of this and tries to "cut" it off, CM will go down, else he should outlast GA Prime.
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1) Spectre was weak from days on end of fighting many of DC's strongest characters, gods and abstracts, often many at a time. Noted during the fight with SHAZAM.
2) SHAZAM didn't win in any way, unless we consider someone falling down a win. He fell in one panel, and was standing up in the very next one.
3) Even that only happened mostly because Spectre was toying with his opponents, which was even noted in the storyline during the fight with Nabu.
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Skyfather? Billy had most of the ambient magic of the universe, several pantheons, phantom stranger, was channeling the Starheart and pretty much every magic user alive on Earth dumping power into him.
The sheer force of his punches were echoing across reality and destroying shit. lol.
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I don't bother with feats that old, regardless if they're still considered canon or not. Characters have changed too much and too many rebalancing and retcons since then.
DC's Odin created a universe before, and he might as well be a gnat to the likes of Spectre.
Billy was much closer to Archangel Michael's level of power than he was a skyfathers, as many many skyfathers were pumping him, and Michael is the only one to really lay a beating on Spectre like Billy did. Though it could be said that it was because Spectre had already used an unquantifiable amount of energy taking out Phantom Stranger and some gods and Atlantis, etc prior to the battle. That and he purposely chose to take on Billy head to head to test him, when he could have just shut him off.
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