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StiltmanFTW
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What is it with you and Cap hate? You're a nazi? stick out tongue

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Is durability a part of damage soak? Or as I who can bleed longer and not die?

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The latter.

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You should be banned for that amount of ignorance. Captain America has substantial armor and he still isn't as durable.

you should be banned for a psychopathic hatered towards a comic book character.
and for not knowing the difference between durability and damage soak...

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I'm certain that Cap has better damage soak.

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Is durability a part of damage soak? Or as I who can bleed longer and not die?

Both.

So if I cause X amount of damage, who can take more of my punches and still ask for more.

It would be a function of HF, durability, AND heart force.

The Punisher, for example, has no HF, human level durability....but insane amounts of heart force.

The Thing has no HF, extremely high durability and heart force.

Wolverine has an extreme HF, human level durability (ignoring his bones) and some heart force.

Deadpool has an extreme HF, human durability and low heart force.

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Didn't Spidet get bumrushed there?

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Yes. Minutes after fighting Iron Man for a bit. And being shot up a few times. And falling out of an extremely high building, IIRC.

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Would it matter?

If Colossus, amped with 1/5 of one of the universe's fundamental forces, and with the blessing of an Elder God of destruction, punches you....whether you're expecting it or not doesn't affect your durability.....

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I thought he was referring to the Civil War instance that was posted earlier�

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Yeah I was

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So the Cap vs IM scenario played out differently to the Cap vs Spidey scenario

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So the Cap vs IM scenario played out differently to the Cap vs Spidey scenario

Yeah. Spider-man didn't take many hits from Iron Man(He was only tackled through a wall by him, I believe), but he did get shot, take a fall out of an extremely large building, hit by one large explosion, and two smaller ones, and got drugged by Jack o Lantern.

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Cap got blindsided by both Parker (using Steve's shield) and Tony, took numerous hits from the latter (plus sonics) and was still not done.

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Cap got blindsided by both Parker (using Steve's shield) and Tony, took numerous hits from the latter (plus sonics) and was still not done.

He looked pretty done to me when he was being carried off the field of battle by Falcon. Granted, Cap also took some damage from that explosion Hercules caused.
I'd say the damage they took was fairly close to equal, and they both had to be carried off the battlefield by another hero.

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What is it with you and Cap hate? You're a nazi?

I may be a bit anti government, but he's actually one of my favorite characters. And it breaks my heart that I must play devil's advocate just to keep things fair in many of his kmc match ups.

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he's actually one of my favorite characters. .

Lol yeah right give me a break. you remind me of those racist rats who always go like "dont get me wrong i got a lot of black friends" and then say some racist shit to come along with that. you go up against cap in every single thread about him. hell you were claiming batmans has stats on par with the guy roll eyes (sarcastic)

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I may be a bit anti government, but he's actually one of my favorite characters. And it breaks my heart that I must play devil's advocate just to keep things fair in many of his kmc match ups.

I call BS, but feel free to prove me wrong by posting links to threads where you've defended Cap or where you talked about what you liked about him.

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He looked pretty done to me when he was being carried off the field of battle by Falcon. Granted, Cap also took some damage from that explosion Hercules caused.
I'd say the damage they took was fairly close to equal, and they both had to be carried off the battlefield by another hero.

Then of course, there's this:

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