Re: Re: Re: Chris Avellone's thoughts on Revan vs Darth Traya & Meetra Surik
Where have Mr. Chris stated that morals would come into play?
Mr. Chris have stated that Revan would find Traya easier opponent to tackle then Meetra Surik. However, he did assert that Revan may have to strategize to some extent to defeat a Strike Team of Traya and Meetra Surik, should this confrontation hypothetically occur. This makes sense.
Mr. Chris stated that both Traya and Meetra Surik have shortcomings which Revan can exploit. On the contrary, Revan does not have shortcomings.
As for the Force Drain powers related argument, Mr. Chris asserted that Traya was not willing to become another Nihilus. He didn't assert that Traya is not willing to Force Drain powers at all. Mr. Chris asserted that Traya is not likely to push boundaries with such powers like Nihilus or she would risk becoming like him in the process.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Feb 8th, 2015 at 08:41 PM
Oh yes, lets bash another author for talking highly about Revan because this is now a sin.
Revan is commonly envisioned and promoted as a super-strong Force-user by many Star Wars authors. This is his official promotional element; he is the Yoda's equivalent for the Old Republic era.
Neph, you are a smart person and have history of making good judgments and arguments. However, you are not making iota of sense here.
1. Revan executed his plan to assassinate Emperor Vitiate in exceptional manner. Unfortunately, Scourge betrayed him during a defining moment because of his cowardice. Revan's tactical brilliance cannot be faulted for this betrayal.
You could say that it was a mistake to trust a Sith Lord but HoT did the same and outcome was positive. Difference is that Scourge showed courage when another opportunity knocked on the door.
2. That is not a shortcoming. Emperor Vitiate is simply too powerful for any Jedi, Sith or Grey to contend with. Revan do not have significant shortcomings at all, he is very well-rounded.
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
I never said Avellone was wrong for being a Revan fanboy, as I'm a pretty big fan of Revan myself, and more so about hyping him up, none of which I implied was a "sin."
The limit of something like drains force/ki/life force for an attack will always be limited by how fast it can strip all that power away
Just because the limit isn't shown in the game? Well sucks for you, because without further feats, you can't establish the limit as being higher than shown
Unless speculative bullshit is seen as proper evidence here?
Then by all means, indulge
I'll just sit back and chuckle at the comedy :maybe
Avellone himself said it was a form of drain the Ancient Sith refused to use because they knew the drawbacks of it. It's not that they couldn't use it, they just refused to.
Then how is it that you don't know the properties of the Kotor 2 technique, which isn't even known to be a drain for certain? It robs the user of their identity and creates a crippling addiction to draining energy. Which Krayt didn't suffer from. It also leaves absences in the Force, which Krayt hasn't ever done. Nor has he demonstrated the numerous other secondary effects of the technique that are shown in Kotor 2. There's also no way for him to have learned the technique.
And my point was that if you haven't read the descriptions of Krayt's drain or anything about him you can't accurately comment on whether his drain is the same as Nihilus'. Especially when it comes to this technique, that radically affects its wielder in ways that are readily apparent and make things pretty ****ing easy to be distinguished between. If you actually know what you're talking about, of course.
Also, you really shouldn't assume I want to debate you just because I disagreed with you. If I could have been bothered to post tons of proof I would have the first time.
Legend, the definition of a shortcoming is to demonstrate an imperfection or to fail to meet a certain standard. So Revan definitely did demonstrate a shortcoming by coming up short against the Emperor.
Revan's plan was legitimately shit though. He just ran in there and hoped that they'd be able to beat him, without any kind of strategy or tactical advantage. Pure idiocy.
Feb 8th, 2015 08:38 PM
