DC vs Marvel vs ?

Started by Prof. T.C McAbe5 pages

DC vs Marvel vs ?

Ok, this thread is about inspirations. To be exact, who inspired who first. It's not about bashing or feats, just about "what came first" and "how was it adapted by the other company". You can use Marvel, DC or any other Company, share you knowledge. May it be a hero, an iconic picture or the structure of the Omniverse.

Some examples

DC inspired Marvel

Gladiator and the Imperial Guard (Inspired by Superboy and the Legion of Superheroes)

Marvel inspired DC

Imperiex and the Imperiex Probes (Inspired by Galactus and his Heralds)

Who had a Multiverse with alternate versions of their Superheroes first btw?

And how is this a vs Thread? Well, let's see how big the creative influence of the companies is.

Catwoman>Black cat
Hawk eye > Green arrow

Hulk / Doomsday (Hulk came first)
Magneto / Doctor Poloris (Magneto came first)
Green Lantern / Quasar (GL came first)
Darkseid / Thanos (I think Darkseid came first)
Gladiator / Superman (Superman came first)

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk / Doomsday (Hulk came first)
Magneto / Doctor Poloris (Magneto came first)
Green Lantern / Quasar (GL came first)
Darkseid / Thanos (I think Darkseid came first)
Gladiator / Superman (Superman came first)

You sure about Magneto there, buddy?

Re: DC vs Marvel vs ?

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe

an iconic picture

I pick Sun God and his teammates as copies of the Justice League, mainly because of this:

http://i.imgur.com/fMpfH0K.jpg

I found that to be a nice, little homage. Superman getting nuked and Sun God getting killed by Doctor Strange.

Polaris came before Magneto.

Hulk is a rip off of Grundy.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Polaris came before Magneto.

Hulk is a rip off of Grundy.

Hulk has adaptive capabilities. Doomsday main ability is to adapt.

The madder Doomsday get, the stronger he gets. Wonder who they got that from.

Everything about Doomsday was created by the Hulk. They just upped his adaptive abilities. Grundy doesn't have a single quality like the Hulk minus super strength.

Good ones. Like the Sun God picture.

This one was also nice:
http://s6d8.turboimg.net/sp/912397ee4cfddd85b256b5134cba9356/106.jpg
http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/DarkKnightReturns3.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk has adaptive capabilities. Doomsday main ability is to adapt.

The madder Doomsday get, the stronger he gets. Wonder who they got that from.

Everything about Doomsday was created by the Hulk. They just upped his adaptive abilities. Grundy doesn't have a single quality like the Hulk minus super strength.


Yeah, right.

Hulk isn't well known for his adaptive abilities. He is known for smashing shit up.

Hulk was originally stated to be grow stronger the longer he fights. Not with how angry he was.

Just like grundy.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, right.

Hulk isn't well known for his adaptive abilities. He is known for smashing shit up.

Hulk was originally stated to be grow stronger the longer he fights. Not with how angry he was.

Just like grundy.

Hulk has adapting abilities. That's all DC did was copy and enhance it with Doomsday.

WTF. Make a thread. Hulk is well known for growing in power with his rage. Hulk power feed off of his rage (I'm sure you know this. You're either trolling or you are in denial) just like Doomsday (this isn't the only time it was said that Doomsday strength involved his rage).

Grundy and Hulk doesn't have NOTHING similar to each other. Grundy is a walking corpse with super strength. He's more comparable to Frankenstein then the Hulk. Doomsday IS the Hulk. Do you need my shoulder?

Wait, you think Hulk WASN'T inspired by Grundy?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Wait, you think Hulk WASN'T inspired by Grundy?

Nope. They have completely different powersets. Nothing about Grundy and Hulk are similar minus them having super strength.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk has adapting abilities. That's all DC did was copy and enhance it with Doomsday.

WTF. Make a thread. Hulk is well known for growing in power with his rage. Hulk power feed off of his rage (I'm sure you know this. You're either trolling or you are in denial) just like Doomsday (this isn't the only time it was said that Doomsday strength involved his rage).

Grundy and Hulk doesn't have NOTHING similar to each other. Grundy is a walking corpse with super strength. He's more comparable to Frankenstein then the Hulk. Doomsday IS the Hulk. Do you need my shoulder?


Is that so?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24525684/SavageHulkAmping02FF026.jpg.html

First mention of Hulk growing stronger in the comics. Not by rage.

By the way Doomsday is also a genetically engineered being who has died countless times. Guess he isn't a copy of Hulk. Just like Hulk isn't a copy of Grundy by your logic.

And

I don't see Hulk as much of a copy of Grundy. I do see Doomsday a lose copy of Hulk in terms of his "unstoppableness."

Originally posted by abhilegend
Is that so?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24525684/SavageHulkAmping02FF026.jpg.html

First mention of Hulk growing stronger in the comics. Not by rage.

By the way Doomsday is also a genetically engineered being who has died countless times. Guess he isn't a copy of Hulk. Just like Hulk isn't a copy of Grundy by your logic.

And

Sigh. I don't think you understand what is being said here. You're just not getting it. Doomsday IS the Hulk. He has every last one of his abilities. Hell, they had him jumping around like the Hulk as well. Doomsday was inspired by the Hulk. Nothing wrong with that since Hulk is a beast.

Originally posted by carver9
Nope. They have completely different powersets. Nothing about Grundy and Hulk are similar minus them having super strength.

Holy Jesus. facepalm

You need to read up on your history.

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Doomsday does share similarities with Hulk. Some are bound to be intentional. Some not-so. They needed the most physically imposing character possible to fight Superman, so drawing from Marvel's most physically imposing character, even unconsciously, was always bound to happen imo.

Re: Re: DC vs Marvel vs ?

Originally posted by Enzeru
I pick Sun God and his teammates as copies of the Justice League, mainly because of this:

And of course don't forget the Squadron Supreme, Marvel's original homage to the Justice League, and their various incarnations over the years.

Polaris was definitely before Magneto, but it was close, like Doom Patrol and X-Men. By coincidence, Polaris and Doom Patrol appeared around the same time, then a few months later X-Men and Magneto debuted together.

Hulk was inspired by a few things - from literature Frankenstein's monster and the Jekyll/Hyde scenario in particular. But yeah, people have said Grundy's persona and speech had an influence on the Hulk though I doubt Stan and Jack ever said anything about it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Holy Jesus. facepalm

You need to read up on your history.

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Doomsday does share similarities with Hulk. Some are bound to be intentional. Some not-so. They needed the most physically imposing character possible to fight Superman, so drawing from Marvel's most physically imposing character, even unconsciously, was always bound to happen imo.

Grundy and Hulk are not similar to me, at all. It doesn't just take super strength to make a character similar.

Everything about Doomsday and Hulk are similar tbh. Some more obvious than most.

Both ramp up in strength due to their anger.
Both use the jumping method as a means of transportation.
Adaptive abilities (basically a physical change to their bodies. Hulk growing gills and Doomsday ear covering itself in bone because of a sonic attack).
Super speed
Agility to touch and grab energy.

The list goes on and on. I don't get what the issue is. They are basically the same character except one has bone covering the skin while the other leaks radiation.

Grundy had and has adapting powers btw. and to my knowledge Grundy was an inspiration to Hulk.

If anything Doomsday shares more similarities with Grundy than Hulk. No alter ego, if he dies he comes back with adapted powers, design, color, super strength, invulnerability etc.

1962 First appearance, cover.

Solom Grundy first appeared 1944
Here a cover 2 years prior to the first appearance of Hulk.
Justice League of America (1960 1st Series)

Nothing bad being inspired by Grundy imo, Hulk has traits of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde too, so the twist is there.

Originally posted by carver9
Grundy and Hulk are not similar to me, at all. It doesn't just take super strength to make a character similar.

Everything about Doomsday and Hulk are similar tbh. Some more obvious than most.

Both ramp up in strength due to their anger.
Both use the jumping method as a means of transportation.
Adaptive abilities (basically a physical change to their bodies. Hulk growing gills and Doomsday ear covering itself in bone because of a sonic attack).
Super speed
Agility to touch and grab energy.

The list goes on and on. I don't get what the issue is. They are basically the same character except one has bone covering the skin while the other leaks radiation.


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