Captain America vs. Thor

This is not a fight to determine the winner, since we all know that Thor wins. This thread is to discuss how long Cap can last against Thor and how much of a fight will he be able to put up. After all, IM was able to hang with Thor for a bit and Cap was able to give IM a bit of trouble.

The rules are thus:

Cap is armed with his shield for all rounds. Both Cap and Thor have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.

Round 1: Thor is unarmed and limited to h2h combat.
Round 2: Thor has Mjolnir but is limited to melee attacks
Round 3: Thor has Mjolnir and is going all out

Each round is 3 minutes long. If Cap can last for 3 minutes he wins that round. Does he have a chance?

Nope.

If he can keep Thor from actually grabbing (and therefore taking) the shield, then yes due to shield's shock absorption qualities (with Caps agility letting him move and dodge enough as well). But I doubt he can stop Thor from grabbing the shield for that long. And of course this is only for scenario one.

Originally posted by K-Dog
If he can keep Thor from actually grabbing (and therefore taking) the shield, then yes due to shield's shock absorption qualities (with Caps agility letting him move and dodge enough as well). But I doubt he can stop Thor from grabbing the shield for that long. And of course this is only for scenario one.

Well to be clear, I don't want Cap to go all Mayweather and just run around, dodging Thor and trying to survive the round. Both of them are giving their all in the fight. Which means Cap will need to deliver blows as well.

If Cap has trouble with Loki. The most he does is like turns Thor's head and get a smile from him. But he is not going to be more than an annoyance.

Yeah, Loki was tossing Cap around with embarrassing ease. Even if we take into account that Cap has improved some since then, he'd still get his ass handed to him here. Like I could literally see Thor just yanking the shield out of his hands and smacking him over the head with it.

Seems spite in all 3 rounds. Someone really hates Captain America.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Well to be clear, I don't want Cap to go all Mayweather and just run around, dodging Thor and trying to survive the round. Both of them are giving their all in the fight. Which means Cap will need to deliver blows as well.

But that's literally the only way he'll last longer than 5 seconds.

as much as I love Cap, I just don't see how he can win

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yeah, Loki was tossing Cap around with embarrassing ease. Even if we take into account that Cap has improved some since then, he'd still get his ass handed to him here. Like I could literally see Thor just yanking the shield out of his hands and smacking him over the head with it.

Wasn't it argued on the board at some point, or am I misrecalling, that Cap given his Super Serum, is also at status quo? So since Cap is always at his peak, there is no difference between the Captain America we see in the first movie, and the Captain America we see in the Civil War in regards to what feats they should be able to perform?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
But that's literally the only way he'll last longer than 5 seconds.

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Thor crushed Tony's armor pre-IM3 nerf. H2H he has zero chance.

Round 2 is probably Steve's best chance, Thor did down himself (and a forest) by stupidly hitting the shield. It would give Steve a chance to stick and move.

Round 3 is like fighting a giant vacuum with a bug zapper inside it.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Wasn't it argued on the board at some point, or am I misrecalling, that Cap given his Super Serum, is also at status quo? So since Cap is always at his peak, there is no difference between the Captain America we see in the first movie, and the Captain America we see in the Civil War in regards to what feats they should be able to perform?

Yeah, but at a later point Chris Evans himself came out and said that Cap improves as the films go on, which muddles that whole point. And even if we assume his stats stayed the same, his actual H2H abilities and mastery over what he is capable of very clearly improves as the films progress. For example, if let's say that in CA:TFA or The Avengers he physically had the capability to pull of the CA:TWS quinjet kill, in terms of pure stats, it doesn't mean he would have had the skill and finesse required to pull it off. If you give someone the exact same physical stats as a heavyweight UFC champion, it doesn't mean they'd be able to stalemate them in a fight. They'd still need the training and experience that goes along with the physical capabilities.

Cap gets crushed in a stupid mismatch.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Wasn't it argued on the board at some point, or am I misrecalling, that Cap given his Super Serum, is also at status quo? So since Cap is always at his peak, there is no difference between the Captain America we see in the first movie, and the Captain America we see in the Civil War in regards to what feats they should be able to perform?

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I was one of those who brought up that point but have since then changed my stance. I still believe that Cap is at his physical peak, that he doesn't get stronger or faster in each successive movie. However, I do think he gains better skill and experience and thus is able utilize his enhanced physicality a lot more efficiently.

For example, I think he's just as strong in CW as he was in TFA, but I do think he has learned to fight a lot better and has learned to utilize his strength and speed to perform more agile movements.

Cap could definetly last more than 3 mins. There is practically no way Thor can pen that shield.

Urm... Pull it off him, with his superior strength.

Shoot him in the legs...

Whip him up in a tornado...

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Urm... Pull it off him, with his superior strength.

Shoot him in the legs...

Whip him up in a tornado...

Cap certainly survives the H2H and the Strikes. Cap is still a better fighter than Thor. Surely he would dodge/block the hits.

The tornado is a good one. However Cap would still block the impact. Also the Tornado takes time, Cap only needs 3 mins.

Thor can basically stand there with his arms crossed and Cap wouldn't be able to harm him.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Thor can basically stand there with his arms crossed and Cap wouldn't be able to harm him.

Yeah, true but this thread concerns how long could Cap last Thor, not if Cap can defeat Thor.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Thor can basically stand there with his arms crossed and Cap wouldn't be able to harm him.

Well, Loki was getting beaten by Cap. So isnt' like Thor can just stand there inmune to Cap's attacks.