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Originally posted by carver9
Lmao... not happening.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
BTW, Superman tanked and absorbed a hypernova too.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...postid=16393363

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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yeah, the only time I see someone trying to argue it is Baziemarc123/Alberto. And even we go by his lowballing, it still had energy 2,500,000x more powerful than a supernova.......So I don't think jbl will like it

Aside from that. It's power also is stated able to *at least* destroy half of the galaxy

https://ibb.co/4ZkzHsp

Combined with what ABHI posted, it seems to imply the potent of Mageddon's anti-sun was greater than half of the galaxy

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One “standard” supernova releases around 1 x 10^44 joules, so if that explosion would have to take out the entire Milky Way, it would need to be powered by around 57.3 million supernovae. Ouch.

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Originally posted by carver9
I've seen too many arguments against that showing. I also agreed with Alberto perspective on it. Nice try though.

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Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Oh, I don't think Iron Man does better, like someone said earlier, Tony is all style and that's gonna get him beat up bad.

I do believe prep is an amazing thing and a great equalizer and I would put it up there with speed and instantaneous hf or tp as far as assets in a fight go. It's still not an instant win.

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Originally posted by Alex_Ferrana
Especially when the opponent isn't holding back or written properly (without too much PIS/CIS). Superman in "Batman: Hush" was able to counter Kryptonite Ring on the Batman's hand by using his freeze breath and last long enough to put Batman in position where he could have getting crushed under a weight of an ambulance.

Batman himself states that Superman could just speed-blitz him and squash with his super-strength, but he doesn't do that even when he's mind-controlled "because Clark deep-down is a good man, and deep-down I'm not".

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Except Batman's prep still stopped Superman in that instance.

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Originally posted by Alex_Ferrana
Superman was still holding back and could just blow up a gas main with his heat vision with Batman and himself (and be fine after that, unlike Bats), but refused when Batman said him it would kill innocent people.

Batman's prep was useful, but Bats didn't exactly won. Onlt lasted long enough before Catwoman executed a part of the plan with Lois Lane to make Superman broke free from Poison Ivy's mind control.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah. But that's the thing - it stopped Superman. Which is what it was meant to do. So was successful.

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Originally posted by HumbleServant
Tony Stark (with Batmans knowledge of the Justice League) must find a way to beat the Justice League

Batman (with Tony Starks knowledge of the Avengers) must find a way to beat the avengers

They can face the team members one by one

Who does better?

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Originally posted by ODG
So I assume "knowledge" includes all the actual countermeasures they've each designed?

So for instance, Tony would have the plans for Batman's Justice Buster armor and Bruce would have the plans for Stark's Adamantium Sentinels?

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Originally posted by HumbleServant
They have knowledge of the characters from each other and what their countermeasures did but not how to build them

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Originally posted by Stoic
I personally don’t believe either can do it, but Batman would have an easier time if it were at all possible. Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman, J’onn are so fast that they would individually be able to remove Tony’s armor before his mind could register what happened.

The Star Brand would turn Batman to ash. Hulk’s thunder clap attack would KO him or worse. Thor’s lightning speaks for itself. Monica is so fast that he would not know what hit him. Black Panther with his best tech should defeat Batman. Wanda…?

I just can’t see either of them winning this.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, do the respective teams know Stark/Wayne are coming for them? The Justice Buster, for example, relied on Flash being compromised and not at his best.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He won via prep.