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Capitalism, Socialism or Communism?
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Question Capitalism, Socialism or Communism?

OK, first, Socialism is not Communism.

second, which do you think is best? Capitalism, (making poeple work for their money) Socialism, (helping eachother) Communism, (keeping everyone the same).

Personally I am for Socialism.


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I would say capitalism because alot of people are lazy and don't want to work and Socialism helping anyone out in need such as making a rich person help a poor person. I would say communism instead of socialism but you have to have the right people working it or else the system will become another Russia or north Korea instead.


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A mixed system in general, however I am strongly in favor of a Capitalistic society with some Socialism thrown in to the pot.

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OK, first, Socialism is not Communism.

second, which do you think is best? Capitalism, (making poeple work for their money) Socialism, (helping eachother) Communism, (keeping everyone the same).

Personally I am for Socialism.


None of the above.

A Utopian society would be my pick. It would probably have all of the best elements of all 3 of the ones mentioned above and then some. Unfortunately I don't think we're going to see one anytime soon..sad

At least not until the world is completely rid of evil and all that Jazz..wink


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None of the above.

A Utopian society would be my pick. It would probably have all of the best elements of all 3 of the ones mentioned above and then some. Unfortunately I don't think we're going to see one anytime soon..sad

At least not until the world is completely rid of evil and all that Jazz..wink
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I would say which is the best Political Theory instead of "democracy". Quite frankly I'm sticking to Capitalism. However, Communisn is a very noble theory on the principles of Workers and Labor.


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Capitalism is a financial system... It works well in a dictatorship as well. So I don't understand the question.


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A mixed system in general, however I am strongly in favor of a Capitalistic society with some Socialism thrown in to the pot.


I tend to lean this way. However, the recent actions by Gates and Buffet have been very encouraging, such that "Benevolent Capitalism" may not be an oxymoron.


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Capitalism is a financial system... It works well in a dictatorship as well. So I don't understand the question.


the other 2, while being political movements also have distinct and different financial systems

socialism being robin hood style make the rich pay more and the poor pay less...unfortunately it relies on capitalism working to succeed while at the same time discouraging entrepreneurship and thus shoots itself in the foot

and communism means everyone gets the same no matter which job they do which means their is no incentive for people to bother trying to push themselves to achieve in more difficult careers...why bother trying to be a doctor if you can get the same for sweeping the streets


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communism was a brilliant idea except for the fact that it is impossible. But if it was possible to do it is sorta a utopia type of life.


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Capitalism: It works somewhat... sort of... I mean look at the US.

Socialism: Would work if we were not all selfish bastards and personally I take Ayn Rand's view on this because altruism is a myth.

Communism: Noble idea... but it ain't happening.

So yea I go with Capitalism... at least it's somewhat working. It's a far sight from perfect, but hey? This ain't a perfect world.

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Re: Capitalism, Socialism or Communism?

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OK, first, Socialism is not Communism.

second, which do you think is best? Capitalism, (making poeple work for their money) Socialism, (helping eachother) Communism, (keeping everyone the same).

Personally I am for Socialism.


Is it just me or does that link make the american left seem actually communist? I've always thought that they leaned toward socialism and marxism, but Communism? I thought that was pretty much taboo in the US.

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Is it just me or does that link make the american left seem actually communist? I've always thought that they leaned toward socialism and marxism, but Communism? I thought that was pretty much taboo in the US.


I didn't take the time to click on the link, but I wouldn't call the leftists here in the US Communists, at their very worst I'd call them progressive socialists. And those on the extreme left I'd call radical progressive socialists. The current western capitalist societies that many of us live in do indeed have a whole heck of a lot of socialist policies thrown into them. Can you imagine what it would be like if it didn't? I'm thinking we'd have a system that would be somewhat reminiscent to anarchism.


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Isn't Socalism an integral part to Nazism ?


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I would say which is the best Political Theory instead of "democracy". Quite frankly I'm sticking to Capitalism. However, Communisn is a very noble theory on the principles of Workers and Labor.


We don't really have true Capitalism here in the states though man. It's more or less controlled and restricted Capitalism. And very heavily controlled at that. There's all different types of trade laws which prevent any particular privately owned business from becoming too powerful.


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Isn't Socalism an integral part to Nazism ?


Yeah but it's also an integral part of the version of Capitalism the US uses as well. Think about it. They have a progressive tax system. Welfare programs for the poor. And the US government incorporates all different types of Socialist ideas into it's health care systems.

The only thing non-socialist about the US is that the government does encourage free competition between businesses, and isn't usually directly involved in private business affairs, however, it does regulate the way in which businesses can conduct themselves in a "free" market.


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We don't really have true Capitalism here in the states though man. It's more or less controlled and restricted Capitalism. And very heavily controlled at that. There's all different types of trade laws which prevent any particular privately owned business from becoming too powerful.


You obviously havn't been paying attention lately. What do you think all these free trade laws and treaties are about? Massive outsourcing and the destruction of American jobs in the name of free enterprise. It also means national governments have less control. And as for antitrust laws, they seem to count for nothing anymore. All you ever hear about in business news these days are buyouts and mergers. Less competition...more corporate power. One reason we aren't converting to alternative fuels very fast is because of the massive power and influence of the oil lobby. Corporations ARE the power in the USA.


To answer the thread question I would say a balance between capitalism and socialism. Free trade should be extremely limited and it should be almost impossible for companies to buy anything. It should also be much easier for workers to unionize. There's no reason a CEO needs to make 400 times what a rank and file worker does.


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You obviously havn't been paying attention lately. What do you think all these free trade laws and treaties are about? Massive outsourcing and the destruction of American jobs in the name of free enterprise. It also means national governments have less control. And as for antitrust laws, they seem to count for nothing anymore. All you ever hear about in business news these days are buyouts and mergers. Less competition...more corporate power. One reason we aren't converting to alternative fuels very fast is because of the massive power and influence of the oil lobby. Corporations ARE the power in the USA.


I agree with you. I was just making the point that the US system does indeed have many Socialist policies integrated into it.


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