King Kandy
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Hyper-Conservatives Revamp Oklahoma Abortion Law
Basically now in Oklahoma, if you want to get an abortion you have to jump through numerous hoops in order to try and guilt-trip you out of having it, such as having to look at a fetal picture of your child and identifying it's organs and features first. Also, doctors are allowed to lie to you now if telling you the truth might cause you to have an abortion, and can't be charged with malpractice.
Basically, it's just all kinds of ****ed up. And there are other bills on the way that are even worse.
quote: The Oklahoma Legislature voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to override vetoes of two highly restrictive abortion measures, one making it a law that women undergo an ultrasound and listen to a detailed description of the fetus before having an abortion.
Though other states have passed similar measures forcing women to have ultrasounds, Oklahoma’s law goes further, requiring a doctor or technician to set up the monitor where the woman can see it and describe the heart, limbs and organs of the fetus. No exceptions are made for rape and incest victims.
The second measure passed into law Tuesday protects doctors from malpractice suits if they decide not to inform the parents of a unborn baby that the fetus has birth defects. The intent of the bill is to prevent parents from later suing doctors who withhold information to try to influence them against having an abortion.
Gov. Brad Henry, a Democrat, vetoed both bills last week. The ultrasound law, he said, was flawed because it did not exempt rape and incest victims and was an unconstitutional intrusion into a woman’s privacy. He painted the other measure as immoral.
“It is unconscionable to grant a physician legal protection to mislead or misinform pregnant women in an effort to impose his or her personal beliefs on a patient,” Mr. Henry said.
The Republican majorities in both houses, however, saw things differently. On Monday, the House voted overwhelmingly to override the vetoes, and the Senate followed suit at 10:42 a.m. Tuesday, making the two measures law.
The ultrasound law was part of a bill that was struck down by the state courts last August because it violated a clause in the Oklahoma Constitution that requires bills to deal with only one subject. Republican lawmakers vowed at the time to pass it again.
This year, Republican leaders passed five separate antiabortion bills to satisfy the courts’ concerns. Mr. Henry signed one into law: it required that clinics post signs stating a woman cannot be forced to have an abortion, that an abortion cannot be performed until a woman gives her voluntary consent, and that abortions based on a child’s gender are illegal.
Two other antiabortion bills are still working their way through the legislature. One would force women to fill out a lengthy questionnaire about their reasons for seeking an abortion and then post statistics online based on the answers. The other restricts insurance coverage for the procedure.
Though many states have passed similar laws aimed at curbing abortion, with Tuesday’s action, Oklahoma appears to have become the most hostile to women seeking to end a pregnancy, said Dionne Scott, a spokeswoman for the Center for Reproductive Rights, an advocacy group for abortion rights based in New York.
“It’s the most extreme ultrasound requirement in the country,” she said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/28/us/28abortion.html?hp
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Apr 27th, 2010 11:40 PM
Robtard
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Re: Hyper-Conservatives Revamp Oklahoma Abortion Law
Yeah, lame. I think they should just continue to allow abortion clinics to market their wares in a fun fashion and actively try to convince women to go through the abortion. Someone's gotta feed the monkey.
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Apr 27th, 2010 11:43 PM
Zamp
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Your sarcasm is misplaced.
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Apr 27th, 2010 11:52 PM
Robtard
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Your sarcasm is misplaced.
Considering there is hidden video of abortion clinic staff doing their best to convince women that the abortion they're considering is a good thing and should be done(instead of just staying the **** out of the decision), it's not entirely sarcasm; as abortion is big business, $$$, dude.
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Apr 27th, 2010 11:57 PM
Ordo
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I'd like to use ultrasound to try to find these politicians's brains.
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Apr 28th, 2010 12:47 AM
dadudemon
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This is why abortion should be allowed:
Yes, that's a little fat girl, possessed by Satan.
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Apr 28th, 2010 01:22 PM
Ordo
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that aint baby fat either...
...and thats really scary.
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Apr 28th, 2010 01:37 PM
King Kandy
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I doubt this will hold up in court well. Thought today the supreme court pretty much canceled out the establishment clause, so anything's possible.
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Apr 29th, 2010 12:27 AM
AthenasTrgrFngr
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by dadudemon
This is why abortion should be allowed:
Yes, that's a little fat girl, possessed by Satan.
i dont think its possible to know that your child is possessed by the devil until after its born.
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Apr 29th, 2010 12:50 AM
StyleTime
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by dadudemon
This is why abortion should be allowed:
Yes, that's a little fat girl, possessed by Satan.
That thing scared the shit out of me. Can you imagine if you woke up one night with that thing coming at you?
What exactly were you searching for when you ran across this disturbing video?
Last edited by StyleTime on Apr 29th, 2010 at 03:31 AM
Apr 29th, 2010 03:23 AM
Bouboumaster
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Abortion is a good thing, because, with that, we don't have to "accidently" push the woman in the stairs, ou "tripping" and giving her the elbow drop.
Sorry, it was only black humor, I swear!
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Apr 29th, 2010 03:28 AM
Enyalus
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Sorry, it was only black humor, I swear!
I feel you mah brotha. Wurd.
Apr 29th, 2010 03:59 AM
Bouboumaster
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Enyalus
I feel you mah brotha. Wurd.
Oops, bad translation! It's "dark humor" I think. In french, we say "humour noir" for gross jokes.
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Apr 29th, 2010 04:06 AM
Enyalus
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Go Canadiens. And stuff.
Apr 29th, 2010 04:21 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by dadudemon
This is why abortion should be allowed:
Yes, that's a little fat girl, possessed by Satan.
i don't get it. seriously.
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Apr 29th, 2010 05:15 AM
dadudemon
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Apr 29th, 2010 06:34 PM
AthenasTrgrFngr
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by dadudemon
I disagree: have you watched any horror movies?
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Apr 29th, 2010 06:35 PM
King Kandy
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Boy, this one got derailed before it even started.
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Apr 29th, 2010 09:24 PM
tsilamini
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by King Kandy
Boy, this one got derailed before it even started.
way to try and have a serious conversation
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Apr 29th, 2010 09:36 PM
StyleTime
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It was dadudemon's fault, King Kandy.
Apr 29th, 2010 10:06 PM
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