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schill142
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Death Star/The Duel

I've recently read a few things about the duel that has given me cause to formulate my own theory about some of the circumstances around it.

We supposedly know that Anakin will receive tremendous injuries inflicted by OB1 by way of a very long duel and molten metal or lava. Did OB1 and Anakin just happen to meet up and battle on a lava rich planet? What sort of circumstance would provide the right mixture of areas that combatants could navigate complete with platforms, catwalks, corridors, and different slopes; all with molten material as a backdrop? Was it some sort of foundry or forge done on a massively large scale. What in the Star Wars universe could this be?

I'm speculating that the lava or molten metal that damages Anakin may be from the preliminary construction of the Death Star.
Perhaps, and this is all speculation, the Death Star was not built as much as it was transformed. We see in EU awesome devices like World Devastators that chew up planets and spit out fighters, perhaps the Empire was using a very preliminary form of this technology to slowly transform parts of a moon or planet for large pieces of the Death Star's frame. The amount of raw material needed to create the Death Star would amount to a "small moon" anyway, why not simply start with an object that big. I'm not saying that a moon or world was completely transformed into the Death Star, just that large portions of it where created by some form of terrestrial modification. I mean, could you really imagine the Entire Death Star being welded together piece by piece? hmmmm.

In episode II we see the prelimary plans for the Death Star and hints of the dark side transforming Anakin. Maybe the final event that "constructed" the Death Star and Vader are one in the same.

What do all of you think...?

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Very interesting idea and quite imaginative, but I don't think that's how it will happen.

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You have to admit it would be a nice bridge between Epidsode III and A New Hope.


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quote:
mean, could you really imagine the Entire Death Star being welded together piece by piece?
yes, take a look at ep VI

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yup...it aint like building a lego castle.


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Yes, most definitely the Death Star is indeed constructed piece by piece. This is Star Wars, where ridiculous projects like that are possible.


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There's two more things I'd like to add.

First of which is getting the planet out of its orbit, which is obviously not an easy task. It's more than just slapping on some engines to a moon or something and then bringing it away.

Second of all, there's no indication of there being any organic features of the Death Star itself when Kenobi and crew infiltrate in ANH. As stated before, the second Death Star was being slapped together piece by piece, so I don't find this theory too plausible.


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Look at the Pyramids, they are like one of the worlds greatest wonders. The Egyptians had whips, huge whips, and made poeple build those things.

George Lucas is a historical guy (heck he even Star Wars on varous historical eras and mytholigies) - I think it's built bit by bit.

I just came up with a pretty neat idea - what if Darth Vader enslaves an entire race of people (or Emperor does it and Vader and Tarkin oversee it and enforce it) and they make them build their Death Star. It would be an awesome way to portray Darth Vader - who was once himself a slave, along with his mother - as an empty husk of the man he once was, to show just how bad he has become and how bitter and twisted ("Twisted and evil") he is at his own misfortune.

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quote:
Originally posted by finti
yes, take a look at ep VI


I'm sorry did we see the the Second Death Star's completion from the very start? No

And I never said an entire terrrestial body would be transformed. This is what I said:

"...transform parts of a moon or planet for large pieces of the Death Star's frame. The amount of raw material needed to create the Death Star would amount to a "small moon" anyway, why not simply start with an object that big. I'm not saying that a moon or world was completely transformed into the Death Star, just that large portions of it where created by some form of terrestrial modification."

Does it not make sense for large pieces of the frame and for that matter most large items in the Death Star to manufactured somewhere else and then assembled on site, kinda like how building and ships are constructed currently.

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Not really, no. Especially with it being built around a moon anyway.


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Are you saying you've never heard of off-site manufacturing? It's how everything from bikes to aircraft carries are made. Now if the Death Star is 120 kilometers in diameter one would theorize that the empire would not try to build it's bulk heads and main skeleton meter by meter. Some of the larger structural pieces of the station would have be kilometers in length.


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i would never watch another starwars film again if the planet obi and ani duel on is the planet where they start the melt down of the metal for the deathstar. i say this cause i'm tired of everyone and everything being related somehow. for example: anakin was trained by obi-wan, who was trained by qui-gon, who was count dooku's padawan, dooku was yoda's padawan, who turns into the new sith lord, etc. i didn't mind it in the orignial trilogy but now its like six degrees of sepration. like boba who is the clone of jango who was cloned to make stormtroopers. can we get a hero or villian who isn't the brother's, cousin's, best friend, on their mother's side son. maybe its just me but for such a large galaxy everyone seems to be related.


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most unlikely. i mean it would make lucas seem like a sap.


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Yes it goes

Ani (who was trained by-)
Obi wan (who was trained by-)
Qui gon (who was trained by-)
dooku (who was trained by-)
yoda (who knew-)
sidious (who organised-)
Clone troopers, (which came from -)
Jango (who has a clone son called-)
Boba (who worked for-)
Darth vaider (who was -)
ani (who married-)
padme (who had a child called-)
luke (who had a sister called-)
leia (who has a boy friend called -)
han (who knew-),
lando (who worked for-)
Darth Vader (who was ...)

(go back to the begining)


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any one agree with me?


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quote:
Originally posted by schill142
Are you saying you've never heard of off-site manufacturing? It's how everything from bikes to aircraft carries are made. Now if the Death Star is 120 kilometers in diameter one would theorize that the empire would not try to build it's bulk heads and main skeleton meter by meter. Some of the larger structural pieces of the station would have be kilometers in length.


So you think they tugged a moon, around ANOTHER moon, and built it there out of that first moon?

Sorry, why do you think that this ridiculously complex and pointless idea is even vaguely worth coming up with?

Sorry, no, they just built it- hundres of kilometres in length if need be.


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quote:
Originally posted by Ushgarak
So you think they tugged a moon, around ANOTHER moon, and built it there out of that first moon?

Sorry, why do you think that this ridiculously complex and pointless idea is even vaguely worth coming up with?

Sorry, no, they just built it- hundres of kilometres in length if need be.


Yes I agree. In ROTJ, you see the Death Star being constructed and it isn't complete. The sides are very rigid and some there are some gaps, then small pieces attached, then it fades to nothing where it is not complete. If the death star was built in sections, then the sides where it wasn't complete would look smoother and more straight to me.


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Was the SSD Executor made out of a giant elongated asteroid?


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[spoiler] after the deaths of Count Dooku and General Grievous, Mustafar is the last hold out of the separatists. Anakin is sent there by Palpatine to eradicate what's left of them to eradicate any incriminating evidence and to allow the newly declared empire to nationalize their industries. supposedly, anakin saves mr. gunray for last, relishing in destroying the person he percieves as having ruined his life. it is here that Ovi-wan and padme confront him and the duel begins among the bodies of the separatists.


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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: after the deaths of Count Dooku and General Grievous, Mustafar is the last hold out of the separatists. Anakin is sent there by Palpatine to eradicate what's left of them to eradicate any incriminating evidence and to allow the newly declared empire to nationalize their industries. supposedly, anakin saves mr. gunray for last, relishing in destroying the person he percieves as having ruined his life. it is here that Ovi-wan and padme confront him and the duel begins among the bodies of the separatists. therefore, Mustafar has nothing to do with the construction of the death star. most likely it's some huge droid foundry.


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