What do you think? Is The Matrix the most perogitive movie ever made? Tell me if you think so or if not, tell me another movie that is more perogative.
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as for provocative, i think there are quite a number of movies that have been much more so than the matrix. the amount of buzz the matrix generates is limited to us fans. other movies have incited reaction from all sorts of people in all ways of life.
off the top of my head i'll decline to list any, but they're out there.
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Yes, the Matrix series of movies are the most provocative movies ever.
I mean, me and my friends at skool actually argue with each other over what stuff in the movies meant, whats gonna happen in Revolutions and stuff like that No movie has ever left as many people talking and thinking.
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LunchB0x> Read Nickjs21s post, please.
No, the Matrix movies are not the most provocative movies ever made. I agree with Nick, that that is simply us fans, who get a kick out of interpreting and over-interpreting everything.
I think, say, David Lynch does a better job at provoking.
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Forrest Gump I'm sure hit alot more people's hearts than the Matrix movies did. I really enjoyed the Matrix and Reloaded, I've got posters from both. And have read as much about them as I could and I'm still looking...
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I think that the end of Forrest Gump was very provocative.. about how he thinks that destiny and just floatiing around aimlessly is happening at the same time. Now thats interesting. But, I have to say that the concept of The Matrix is amazingly provicative. Minority Report is a good one as well.
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Again i have to disagree with Omega and Nickjs21s posts.
I was using my arguments with friends as an example, i do not believe that it is just "us fans" who get a kick out of interpreting these movies. But also, what do u mean "fan" that could be anybody who has seen and enjoyed these movies, which is a hell of alot of ppl, and not just those who obsess over it. The ppl who do not do not obsess over the movies still interpret and discuss the movis at length.
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no, no they don't. only us fans (i'll clarify . . . "fangeeks") that obsess over it interpret it to the degrees we've seen. anyone who writes a book about it is still just a fangeek with a publisher.
so, you're saying that people who aren't fans still get a kick out of analyzing and interpreting the movie? that seems silly. for example, i do not enjoy the backstreet boys, so i'm not a fan. therefore, i would not get a kick out of interpreting their music and lyrics down to the pitch of one of the members on a particular beat.
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How did he mean fans???? did he mean fans,like me, who obsees over the movie, or anyone who enjoys the movie? if he meant only those who obsess over it, he was wrong...sorry bout my bad explanation,
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That “The Matrix” movies are being interpreted in many contexts, religious, mythological and even political does not mean they’re the most provocative movies ever made.
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but erm...who'd actually care? What if this is the nr. 1 provocative movie, or what if it's not that provocative at all? Does it change anything about the movie itself? Will we (or other people) be able to enjoy it more or less? No. So what does it really matter then? It's just a great movie, that's all we need to know
u are so rite hodgie723! i love minority report! it is number three on my list of all time fave's behind reloaded and the matrix. i emcourae any matrix fan to see it. it is made in the style of the matrix and it has an awesome plot that is really thought provoking!
Nah.I don't think u just have to be a fan to get a kick outta the movies....other ppl enjoy talking about it too, and gathering their own conclusions about it! Storywise I think it is the most provocative.....and visually, but in that sense I have to say it shares a spot w the Lord of the Rings trilogy......at least in my heart! (please log in to view the image)
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