Ah right, forgot about those, sorry, been years since I played.
No ultima weapons.
Yes, there is access to materia, but NOT knights of the round. Just the basic ones, as high powered as they go, Curaga, etc. Perhaps a lower bahamut.
They get all their limits.
Vincent can solo the team + his two team mates if we are going with Dirge of Cerberus Chaos.... If we are going with standard game form... Death spell ne 1? Maybe manipulate.... We dont know too much about Zack until Crisis Core comes out but im assuming arround Clouds level since they use the same skills
To give you an idea how fast he is:
Thats him versing Omega Weiss
Both are super fast and Vincent isnt even phased by being stabbed twice
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Last edited by illadelph on Aug 11th, 2007 at 05:59 PM
Zack should really be NO WHERE NEAR Cloud. Zack was destroyed by Sephiroth...Cloud's beaten him twice. Zack died. Cloud had an entire game of training to become more powerful. However, he was hella fast and skilled in last order.
Zack is very close to Cloud in terms of strength... Its been officially stated that Sephiroth is MANY times stronger than Cloud but Sephiroth likes to toy with his opponents... Then again that was probably due to the MASSIVE amounts of hate mail sent in once they declared that Genesis (secret character at teh end of Dirge of Cerberus) was alledgedly stronger than Sephiroth but then they later retracted that statement and made it so no ff7 character could ever be as strong or as skilled as Sephiroth
I'd still say Zack is nowhere near Cloud. Zack didn't have all the travels Cloud did to gain strength - Zack was clearly weaker than the 'level fifty' sephiroth you 'play' in the flashback. Cloud becomes much more powerful than that Sephiroth.
Not to mention the fact, that regardless of what's been 'stated,' Cloud has officially beaten down Sephiroth twice - both times with an Omnislash.
Well if you didnt know, Cloud is of course capable of being more powerful than the level 50 Sephiroth except for the fact that the level 50 Sephiroth didnt take any damage from anything.... Any ways, the only way Cloud gets stronger in the game is by getting the secret stuff like Ultima weapon which is not actually aquired in the story line. Its also like a 3/6/9 on 1 in the final fight and Sephiroth in Advent children is just an Avatar that Jenova manifests and then later discards....
jeez, summons allowed? That makes them capable of destroying cities, itll be more fair if any materia was allowed, i can picture ultima incinerating all of them, lol or summon odin to decapitate all of them.