How is he physically superior to a guy that could have one shot killed Thor w/o the Odin Force with a single blow and break Thor w/ the Odin Force's ribs before going into his "unleashed" mode - which would have threatened the entire planet? The guy pushed OF Thor more so than power absorbing Rulk and the Destroyer Armor and caused Mjolnir to actually break after being struck hard enough.
He took on a Team that was more powerful then OF Thor and their only option was BFR. He also was easily manipulated by Loki. Superman or GL with Shields would survive that blow imho, Diana would use her bracer for defense. Bor wasn't impressive at all. OF was dominated by Rulk. Nothing bad since Rulk had the Loeb force but still.
BFR via OE is different then your average BFR and it would be enough.
I saw that Bor vs OF thor fight and it was lame for a "would be Skyfather". I would rank him as High Herald or Trans as best, Thor with OF too btw.
Calling the kettle black? Bor doesn't have the feats to prove that he can contend with DS.
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That's your prerogative I guess, but based on feats no member of the DCnU JLA holds a candle to classic Thor, never mind Odin Force Thor. Thor would roll through them like a out of control wreaking ball.
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Imho, from what I have seen from OF Thor and what I remember from Classic Thor, I used to read mostly Marvel comics during that time tbh. Classic thor was far more impressive and powerful then OF Thor. The same is true for Classic Odin and current Odin.
Based on his high end feats and low end feats OF Thor is Herald, nothing more.
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Well, looks like some context is needed for this post.
More powerful as a whole, sure. More powerful individually? Not a chance. He was manipulated by a prepped Loki who took advantage of Bor's defenses being raised. DCnU Superman and Green Lantern don't have the feats that classic Thor has, and that much is obvious. And that wasn't even a solid strike from Bor who tapped into his power as a whole. The only real argument is Diana being able to block with her bracers, and even she hasn't displayed anything from the DCnU to justify her taking on Bor and winning, let alone surviving. Not sure why Bor isn't impressive in your eyes unless you just gloss over the context of his feats. And Rulk was using Loebforce/power absorbing to beat OF Thor, so again, moot point.
Bor could block the OE with his axe.
OF Thor is solidly above High Herald. Looking at his feats and comparing them to classic/current Thor and it's clear that OF Thor >>> Thor without the Odin Force. Normal Thor doesn't tank Destroyer's attacks nor survive attacks that would have killed him easily. So, yes, both OF Thor and Bor above High Heralds and you're wrong in your assessment of both power levels as evidenced by the comics themselves.
Well yeah, if we compare Classic Thor's greatest feats to Odin Force Thor's greatest feats, chances are classic Thor will look better. But the amp was there and the intention was shown by his ability to resist attacks that would have killed him in the past with minor damage. There would have been no reason to give Thor an amp, then expect for the readers to conclude he was weaker.
Classic Thor gets killed by the Destroyer Armor. OF Thor tanks the disintegration beam and suffers only charred armor and minor burns. Classic Thor doesn't revive the entire Asgardian race or recreate Asgard from nothingness. OF Thor does. Classic Thor doesn't survive glancing blows from an enraged god by his own admission. Odin Force Thor does.
So, while this may be your opinion, it's not based on anything on panel.
Your argument is tantamount to arguing that because Savage Hulk has high end feats greater than anything done in WWH, he's more powerful than his Green Scar persona. Which is ridiculous considering their portrayal and supported evidence to the contrary.
Normal Thor is high herald. Thor with the Odin Force as portrayed by JMS is above that. Indisputable.
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