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Can Flash solo The Ultimates?

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Wally West around the time of Morrison's JLA, he seemed at peak power there, and in his solo series.
Blue Marvel, Captain Marvel, Miss America, Spectrum, Black Panther.
No prep.
No BFR.

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on the forum absolutely--in fact you'd need to low ball him to give them a chance. in a comic he would have no chance.


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Flash would destroy them


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If we takes into high end feats with no CIS, wally is approachin zoom level
, only 4 kinds of people can beat him
1. reality warpers and toon force
2. characters that zoom can't hurt (juggernaut)
3. characters that can instantly reform themselves (dr manhattan)
4. character faster than him


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Originally posted by MrMind
If we takes into high end feats with no CIS, wally is approachin zoom level
, only 4 kinds of people can beat him
1. reality warpers and toon force
2. characters that zoom can't hurt (juggernaut)
3. characters that can instantly reform themselves (dr manhattan)
4. character faster than him


Even then, speedsteal.....


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If we take in consideration Flash's ability to be predictable and Black Panther's combat skills, the fight ends the moment BP punches Flash into the throat.


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Flash would kill them all.

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Speed kills all. Flash beats everyone on Marvel earth in less than a pico second.


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Man i was really hoping for a more coherent argument for either side.


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Originally posted by leonidas
on the forum absolutely--in fact you'd need to low ball him to give them a chance. in a comic he would have no chance.


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Monica Rambeau can go inside his head and fry his brain.


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Originally posted by riv6672
Man i was really hoping for a more coherent argument for either side.


Lol.

But in all seriousness, people are, for the most part, misunderstanding your (simple) question.

Can he?

The answer is of course, yes. It is certainly feasible to do so. With his speed, he can make this entire thread one-on-one.

Morrison's Flash, after all, was the one capable of running through as many battle simulations as needed to find the perfect battle tactic:
https://s5.postimg.org/a9y771wev/image.jpg

Morrison's Flash was the one who did the IMP.

Was the one who could run so fast, he time-travelled and made time clones:
https://s5.postimg.org/c2ns9iudz/image.jpg

So if anything, he could multiply himself, and then the Ultimates have multiple Flashes to handle.

Of course, there's Monica.

But Monica is slower than thought:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/--U1DSF_w...s1600/90_10.jpg

And when she's at her top speed (so slower than thought), America Chavez moves in slow motion compared to her:
http://i.imgur.com/0SWq6vN.png

And Flashes?
https://s5.postimg.org/5dzmch2l3/image.jpg

https://s5.postimg.org/iq6lqw9qv/image.jpg

I tried to stick to the parameters of the thread, and limited the showings to Morrison era Flash only.


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^^^Now THAT'S amore! thumb up


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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol.

But in all seriousness, people are, for the most part, misunderstanding your (simple) question.

Can he?

The answer is of course, yes. It is certainly feasible to do so. With his speed, he can make this entire thread one-on-one.

Morrison's Flash, after all, was the one capable of running through as many battle simulations as needed to find the perfect battle tactic:
https://s5.postimg.org/a9y771wev/image.jpg

Morrison's Flash was the one who did the IMP.

Was the one who could run so fast, he time-travelled and made time clones:
https://s5.postimg.org/c2ns9iudz/image.jpg

So if anything, he could multiply himself, and then the Ultimates have multiple Flashes to handle.

Of course, there's Monica.

But Monica is slower than thought:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/--U1DSF_w...s1600/90_10.jpg

And when she's at her top speed (so slower than thought), America Chavez moves in slow motion compared to her:
http://i.imgur.com/0SWq6vN.png

And Flashes?
https://s5.postimg.org/5dzmch2l3/image.jpg

https://s5.postimg.org/iq6lqw9qv/image.jpg

I tried to stick to the parameters of the thread, and limited the showings to Morrison era Flash only.


Truth.

As someone else said earlier, while in a comic the Flash could lose to the the team, in a forum fight the match would go to the Flash. He is simply so fast that by the time the team could conceivably come up with a solution (note that the OP said no prep), the fight would be long over.

This doesn’t mean speed wins everything every time (and to respond to Carver’s salty ‘Flash defeats the Marvel U in a picosecond, obviously not ...but then again that was just a salty comment from him due to difficulty properly addressing Flash’s speed, for example Hulk cannot just smash ...), but certain high order speed is a uniquely effective power set. It doesn’t make a character invincible...far from it. But it does enable a character to significantly punch above his/her weight.

In short, yes the Flash can solo this team as per the no prep, no BFR stipulations. Morisson’s Flash was one of the more powerful depictions of the character, and has accomplished scaled and complicated feats in fractions of a fraction of a second’s fraction. As cool as the team might be, none of them have a ready solution to that.


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Flash would kill them all.


I'm fine with this idea, so long as we can agree that he'd be able to do the same to the Justice League.


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I'm fine with this idea, so long as we can agree that he'd be able to do the same to the Justice League.


What iteration of the Justice League?


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What iteration of the Justice League?



One with current versions of Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern (Hal), Batman, Aquaman, Cyborg and you can add an additional member if you'd like.


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Flash (Barry) cannot even solo Tangent Superman.

Flash (Wally) cannot even beat Abra Kadabra in less than two or three issues...

He get rekt.


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One with current versions of Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern (Hal), Batman, Aquaman, Cyborg and you can add an additional member if you'd like.


Superman and Diana aren't as slow or vulnerable physically as the members of the Ultimates.


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One with current versions of Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern (Hal), Batman, Aquaman, Cyborg and you can add an additional member if you'd like.


Batman will phuck him up. He has a history of dealing with speedsters thumb up


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