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Mr Fantastic 616 VS The Maker
Prep time 1 week
Who wins?
Aug 8th, 2019 11:13 PM
Galan007
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Maker.
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Aug 9th, 2019 12:46 PM
Magnon
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Maker SHOULD win... but he has been a disappointment ever since he moved to 616. Heck, he cannot even win a prep fight against Sunspot (Roberto da Costa). Against a big gun like Reed-616 he would get utterly annihilated.
Aug 9th, 2019 01:14 PM
beatboks
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Maker
Aug 9th, 2019 02:48 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
Maker.
Why? What better feats does the creator have that reed 616?
Aug 9th, 2019 05:11 PM
Adam Grimes
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Yeah, I'm curious as well. Don't know a lot about Maker.
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Aug 9th, 2019 05:55 PM
DarkSaint85
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Someone should make a respect thread for him
But as for the thread, Maker. Handily.
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Aug 10th, 2019 08:59 AM
beatboks
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by alekj019
Why? What better feats does the creator have that reed 616?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Yeah, I'm curious as well. Don't know a lot about Maker.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Someone should make a respect thread for him
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Yeah if there wasnt already one someone should, but there is
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t609515.html
Thankyou master Galan
Aug 10th, 2019 11:53 AM
StiltmanFTW
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DarkSaint was fooling around and you fell for it, lol.
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Aug 10th, 2019 12:31 PM
ShadowFyre
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I would think that 616 would be well beyond him considering he has like 50 years of feats to go off of.
I just checked out Galans respect thread though. Maker would physically dominate 616 I think.
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Aug 10th, 2019 12:32 PM
Adam Grimes
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Someone should make a respect thread for him
But as for the thread, Maker. Handily. I was baiting Galan. Reported.
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Aug 10th, 2019 03:19 PM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by alekj019
Why? What better feats does the creator have that reed 616?
All of Maker's feats are in the respect thread DS made (see link above.)
In short: he was arguably equal(ish) to 616 Reed before evolving into his Maker persona... But when he officially became 'The Maker', Reed had been inside The City(which dilates time) for the equivalent of 1,000 years, and spent all that time vastly expanding his intellect and overall abilities.
IOW, Maker is essentially a far more evolved/advanced version of 616 Reed... Even some of the top minds in Marvel (such as High-Evolutionary and Blue Marvel) cannot even comprehend his tech at this point.
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Aug 10th, 2019 06:46 PM
BruceSkywalker
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who is this Maker? What are his feats?
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Aug 10th, 2019 09:37 PM
MrMind
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memory is a little fuzzy here, but if not for Owen, Reed would get turned into ape by Maker
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Aug 10th, 2019 10:37 PM
Galan007
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Aug 10th, 2019 10:49 PM
Adam Grimes
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That's not very impressive actually. He simply set up a tramp against an (shockingly!!) unsuspecting Reed.
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Aug 10th, 2019 11:00 PM
Galan007
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The impressive part is the ridiculously advanced temporal tech he whipped up, despite having access to very little materials on Battleworld.
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Aug 10th, 2019 11:13 PM
Adam Grimes
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Oh yeah, in that case it's actually a cool feat. I should read Secret Wars.
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Aug 10th, 2019 11:19 PM
DeadpoolXXX
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thought it was generally accepted that 616 versions are above their alternates?
616 reed should win
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Aug 10th, 2019 11:23 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
thought it was generally accepted that 616 versions are above their alternates?
616 reed should win
Something can be generally true without always being true.
But to be honest, I've never been all that impressed by Maker in the stories I've read. He's been clowned fairly easily by the Ultimates, and Ultimate Tony Stark out-gambitted him and turned his own creation against him in Ultimate Comics Ultimates. Maybe there are some other stories I didn't read where he looked more impressive, but while he might have overall better tech than Reed and be more intelligent, I've not seen him leverage those advantages into achieving anything that wowed me.
Who has Maker actually taken down with prep?
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Aug 10th, 2019 11:37 PM
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