I am not driven by people’ s praise and I am not slowed down by people’ s criticism.
You only live once. But if you live it right, once is enough. Wrong. We only die once, we live every day!
Make poverty history.
"My son, do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He punishes everyone He accepts as a son." Proverbs 3:11, 12
"Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father? If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and are not true sons." Hebrews 12:7, 8
"Our fathers disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasent at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it." Hebrews 12:10, 11
As was quoted from earlier, "No discipline seems pleasent at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it."
I know what the doctrine is, but it still doesn't make sense...why discipline at all...If according to scripture we are flawed, then why wouldn't a god have compassion on the unstable nature of humans?
After all, it is an all powerful, all knowing god...
BTW...I've seen people who have gone through this "discipline" and totally get ugly....it didn't produce a wonderful harvest of righteousness.
"If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and are not true sons."
God did have compassion on humans. We deserve hell, all of us, so God sent Christ to take our place. His death bridged the gap for those who believe in Him, there in no seperation, if we would only have faith and cross that gap, we are saved from eternity in hell and spend eternity in heaven with God.
I heard a sermon about this. Here's the illustration he used: There was a man on a plane and the flight attendant gave him a parachute. The man asked why she gave him the parachute and she said "To make the flight more enjoyable." So the man gladly wore the parachute. But, others on the plane started to make fun of him and told him how stupid he looked in that parachute. Then the flight attendant spilled some hot coffee on the man so he immediatly took the parachute off because it was not making his flight better.
Now there was another man on that flight, the flight attendant told him to put on a parachute and when the man asked why the attendant said "To save your life when the plane starts to go down and you jump 30,000 feet in the air." So the man gladly put on the parachute. Others started to make fun of him and told him how stupid he looked in that parachute. But he didn't care; this parachute will save his life. Then the flight attendant spilled some hot coffee on the man, but he didn't take off the steaming coffee stained parachute, because he knew he needed it to save him from the upcoming 30,000 foot jump.
So eventually the plane experienced some electrical failure causing all the engines to stop, the plane was going to crash. The man with the parachute jumps out of the plane and is saved, while the other man that took off the parachute could not and died with all the others on the plane that did not have a parachute. (I hope I spelled 'parachute' right)
The parachute in this illustration represents becoming a Christian. While some may think that having Jesus in their life will make everything better and take all your problems away, make your life "better", they do so with that in mind. But Jesus said the exact opposite and that you will undergo trials, tribulations, tests and all men will hate you because of Him (the coffee represented the trials in life). So some people loose their religion because of this. The man that put on the parachute because he knew it would save his life looked beyond his short time on the plane (our years on this world) and stayed focused on the jump (life beyond death, heaven).
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Why does God test us?
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