The Bible teaches that Jesus created all things. What do you say?
"He (God the Father) has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son (Jesus) of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins. He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. FOR BY HIM ALL THINGS WERE CREATED that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, AND IN HIM ALL THINGS CONSIST."
Colossians 1:13-17
__________________ WHEN JESUS SAW THE MULTITUDES OF PEOPLE, HE WAS MOVED WITH COMPASSION FOR THEM, BECAUSE THEY WERE WEARY AND SCATTERED, LIKE SHEEP HAVING NO SHEPHERD.
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Re: Jesus...the Creator?
I follow the teachings of the Lotus sutra.
A core principle of the essential teaching of the Lotus Sutra is that the Buddha actually attained enlightenment in the remote past. This is revealed in the “Life Span of the Thus Come One” (sixteenth) chapter, in which Buddha states, “But good men, it has been immeasurable, boundless hundreds, thousands, ten thousands, millions of nayutas of kalpas since I in fact attained Buddhahood.” Thus, Buddha expresses that an incalculably vast period has passed since he first became a Buddha. This immense span of time is often called “numberless major world system dust particle kalpas,”
There was never any point of creation. God (Universe +) has always been.
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The term translated into God for the creation in Genesis is "'elohiym"
'elohiym
Definition
(plural)
rulers, judges
divine ones
angels
gods
(plural intensive - singular meaning)
god, goddess
godlike one
works or special possessions of God
the (true) God
God
eyhl) is the plural form of hhwl) which definition is simply
1. God
or
2. False God
Imo it is possible that the term in Genesis refers to more than one God, thus Jesus Christ, and we believe other beings, assisted God the Father in the creation.
We also believe that God the Father directed or managed creation, and Christ did the actual creating with aid from angels.
There is a problem that Hebrew speakers will, at times, use the plural to designate greatness or majesty. So it is entirely possible that the Genesis account is referring to one entity.
Well first you have to have some concrete proof that he was the creator..........If there was, then I'd believe it............Just because of the verse that says "And the Word was god, and became flesh" doesn't mean that we should worship him........He could of been a messenger for all we know (which is possible)...........As for someone or something creating the invisible.......yes, I do believe there are things, or what ever you want to call it in the invisible.............Quantum physics says so............and in knowing this?????????????????? Does this prove there is SOMETHING??
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^ or it could be a reflection of people's beliefs, at the time, and have nothing to do with what really happened. The truth in the bible is not literal.
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Jesus...the Creator?
Jun 23rd, 2006 04:17 PM
You had better get to the library. 
....science
