So, I dunno if it warrants a thread, but I'm making one to deal with this issue because it's been bugging me.
I've heard continuous comments about how Apocalypse' telepathy is oh so much superior to well known telepaths like Xavier and co. Something about a mindrape? I dunno.
I'm not saying it's not- it could very well be. I'd just like to be able to firmly place it at one level or another. Thus far, the evidence supporting any placement has been... questionable, at best.
BTW, I made the thread in this forum for a reason. I'd like a discussion, not an endless argument/featwar/fanboy battle.
Apocalypse mind controlled the Inhuman population including the Dark Riders. Especially good, because Psynapse (one of the inhumans) is a very powerful psychic, with his own section of the astral plane http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3...cmindconrol.png
Exactly how good he is, I'm not sure. But he's at least on par with guys like Xavier, Exodus, and others. But below Onslaught, Nate Grey, and Jesus Cable.
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"Greatest", "highest", "most impressive", you pick. Either way, if those are his most "prestigious" feats, his telepathy has been vastly overrated in the vs. Forum.
Technopathy maybe? Possible telekinesis? Meh. N/A. TK. N/A. Mental defenses in turning the attack back. Not necessarily actual telepathy.
Perhaps the only scan here that may show telepathy. Although still ambiguous, it looks like Xavier was hit with an energy blast, and I've never seen a telepathic attack have the sound effect "ZRAK" as an energy blast would. Xavier isn't rendered unconscious.
TK. N/A.
It comments he suborned the Inhumans with brainwashing, he isn't directly controlling them. N/A.
If those really are his highest "telepathic" feats then I concur that he's being vastly overrated in this regard.
Silly Exodus, you don't think I know of Cassandra Nova? Whose powers HAIL FROM PROFESSOR XAVIER? A mummudrai is not a mutant at all. I was referring to telepathic mutants.
"Can't think of any stronger feats than beating Xavier. Not for a 616 telepath.
Clearly besting him while he's on Cerebra is a stronger feat for a 616 Telepath(Cassandra Nova)?
As for the scan...I never noticed the Zrak that X pointed out. Interesting.
IRRC Someone list all the times Apocalypse has captured Xavier and placed him into some sort of sleep. Because I remember coming across a scan where Xavier wakes up from his deep sleep and mindrapes Apocalypse.(If it's any help the art was pretty bad, and when Apocalypse got mind raped he made the same gesture as Macaulay Culkin in Home Alone. I just can't remember which issue it was. I think the scan may be in my PM box but it's too big to sift through.)