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Unintentionally Racist Concepts

Article at Cracked.com got me thinking.


http://www.cracked.com/article_1850...characters.html



Thoughts?


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relatively speaking, there still aren't many ethnic heroes which is both sad and irrelevant. Sad because ya know, comics often try to portray events as they would happen in the real world, and last i checked, white people aren't the only people walking around. It's also a bit irrelevant because as a comic reader, I just wanna see a mofo get knocked through a building, I don't particularly care what ethnicity the person is.

There should be more ethnic heroes and even bystanders, but it would look awfully suspicious if there were all of a sudden an inordinate amount for no apparent reason.

This isn't really comic related, but i always found it funny that on the original power rangers, the Black guy was the black ranger and the Asian girl was the yellow ranger... Hrrrrrm.


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My thoughts are? They can probably find worse.


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It's hard to find a worse example than Tyroc, on that list. sick

And I'm suprised about Rawhide Kid. I know that MAX series came out just a few years ago, but to make him act like such a queen in the old west...? thumb down


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It's hard to find a worse example than Tyroc, on that list. sick

And I'm suprised about Rawhide Kid. I know that MAX series came out just a few years ago, but to make him act like such a queen in the old west...? thumb down



Yea, and that was apparently the big hook.

Gay can be done well in comics, just look at Apollo and Midnighter, or Obsidian over in Manhunter, or Renee Montoya, and several others. But you still gotta write them well.

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http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/mov...spider-man.html



my point of view on this could be misconstrued as racist(which i am not)


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Jubilee is an asian girl in a yellow raincoat, whose mutant power is to make fireworks... erm


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http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/mov...spider-man.html



my point of view on this could be misconstrued as racist(which i am not)


OK...I've been thinking about this all day...

No, I'm not in favour of a black actor playing Spider Man. But I have to quantify that, because I've been on record saying it's fine to change the racial makeup of characters, to better reflect the multicultural society we live in. So I'm saying it's really fine just for background, supporting characters - who you would consider 'racially neutral.'
I think when it's your main character, you should honour who they are.

So, yes to changing Nick Fury, Kingpin, Harvey Dent - that's OK, as they just support the leads. No to Spider Man; just like I would say no to a white Luke Cage.

(...Although, would Blade work with a white actor?...)


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Jubilee is an asian girl in a yellow raincoat, whose mutant power is to make fireworks... erm


And then there is... roll eyes (sarcastic)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Claw


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OK...I've been thinking about this all day...

No, I'm not in favour of a black actor playing Spider Man. But I have to quantify that, because I've been on record saying it's fine to change the racial makeup of characters, to better reflect the multicultural society we live in. So I'm saying it's really fine just for background, supporting characters - who you would consider 'racially neutral.'
I think when it's your main character, you should honour who they are.

So, yes to changing Nick Fury, Kingpin, Harvey Dent - that's OK, as they just support the leads. No to Spider Man; just like I would say no to a white Luke Cage.

(...Although, would Blade work with a white actor?...)


that's my exact opinion...in fact i made a group on facebook trying to make that point widely known


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Also, introducing new characters that happen to be a wider variety of races is good. You don't have to change old ones, you can add in your Renee Montoyas, Jaime Reyes, Ryan Chois, Aquagirls, etc..

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Jubilee is an asian girl in a yellow raincoat, whose mutant power is to make fireworks... erm


I thought Jubilee was a vampire?

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Also, introducing new characters that happen to be a wider variety of races is good. You don't have to change old ones, you can add in your Renee Montoyas, Jaime Reyes, Ryan Chois, Aquagirls, etc..


that's how i see it, tbh. if people want more latino/black/asian characters, then create new ones. don't go changing old ones.

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I thought Jubilee was a vampire?


apparently she will be soon.



and re: that list, yeah, marvel has been pretty cruel to irish people in the past, banshee being a prime example.


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As a biracial guy myself, I don't really like the idea of changing people's ethnic backgrounds just for the sake of having a token ______ character. All it does is cheapen said background instead of doing it justice to begin with.


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Spiderman is white, stupid twitter people. I'd boycott the hell out of a movie in which they made Peter Parker a black guy... and I'm a black guy. In the case of Kingpin, i understood it because MCD is/was at the time the only actor big enough in size to pull off the roll. In the case of Spiderman though, there's plenty of white dudes running around hollywood, so no.

Also, no to a white Blade... lol, doesn't even fit with the character's background or style.

How about the Madarin...


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As a biracial guy myself,.



Totally misread that Bi word, and got my hopes up.


Damn you Jake, you and that tight hetero booty.


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that's how i see it, tbh. if people want more latino/black/asian characters, then create new ones. don't go changing old ones.


I think I would agree with that.


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and re: that list, yeah, marvel has been pretty cruel to irish people in the past, banshee being a prime example.


I always thought Banshee was kinda cool don't know that much about him, theres Black Tom Cassidy but thats only two I can think of. In my opinion I think Irish can be a bit like being black both people have gone through alot of persecution. I can see a black person and an Irish person both seeing their nationality and race as an important aspect of who they are due to the persecution. The difference is that a black person wouldn't care wether they were from Ghana or the West Indies they just want more black characters. However I don't see being Irish the same as being French, Spanish or any othert European nationality (except German maybe).


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Totally misread that Bi word, and got my hopes up.


Damn you Jake, you and that tight hetero booty.


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Ethnic stereotyping kinda applies all over the world, well intentioned or not. When they create a whole group of heroes for Canada (Alpha Flight), we get variations on cold weather & Indian mysticism. We get no cool vigilantes or aliens who land & get raised here.


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We get no cool vigilantes


Wolverine? Maybe cos Canada is relatively less crime free.


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I don't see too many "racist" concepts. Maybe some socially insensitive ones, but nothing racist. I do think that some of the attempts at "diversity" come off as forced and thus lame.

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