I know I have said before that you cannot compare real humans to MU, but there is also a bigger reason why you cannot compare real humans to MU humans, The Celestials. It seems to me that eventhough not all human beings have powers all human beings are mutants, in the sense that all human beings have mutated genes. I say this because.....
The Celestials made experiments upon the neanderthal men, resulting not only in humans- that's us- but in the cosmically-charged god-like Eternals, and bestial sub-human Deviants, who were cursed with an unstable genetic code, causing each new generation to be more horribly deformed than the last.
Moreover, on scanning the city of Anchorage for mutants in order to pinpoint Cyclops's location, the Master Mold discovered that human beings contain some mutated cells. Hence, the Master Mold decided that according to its programming to eliminate all mutants, all human beings must be destroyed.
Therefore what is the cause of superhuman powers and mutation in the MU? The Celestials. This can explains why you have mutants and why humans can gain superhuman powers. It even explains how apparently normal human beings can do "superhuman" acts. In some cases humans need to mutate, but an ordinary human being can also gain superhuman powers by learning either martial arts or magic. Eventhough these humans do not have powers magic and martials arts if studied to an extreme level can give them the equivalent of super powers because they already have mutated genes.
Therefore the argument thats says a character cannot do such and such because he is human does not hold any weight because all MU humans are genetically different from MU humans, and this mutation is what gives real humans their potential.
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Last edited by Deadline on Nov 22nd, 2006 at 02:13 PM
Thats right all human beings have the X-factor on varying levels. The whole reason why you have human beings in the first place is genetic mutation. In the real world its evolution or whatever, but its not genetic manipulation.
Comparing real humans to MU humans is a complete waste of time.
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Yes, but im also trying to point out that this explains why even non-superhuman superheroes can dodge bullets and lasers and can defeat less skilled superhumans.
Even if a human being has not been mutated he is still a mutant and has much greater potential than real world counterparts.
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Characters with inadequate physical attributes to dodge bullets and lasers, do it because 1) it's more due to anticipation and bad aim and 2) if they didn't they'd die and dead characters don't sell comic books.
Not all mutations result to cancer. I'm pretty sure that every human in the real world have some sort of mutations in their genes, not even noticeable.
And you can compare real humans to comic book humans, as long as the comic book humans are not superheroes/villains. The reason why they do all that stuff is because of (bad) writing, not some genetic reason.
Going to this sort of stuff is maybe going TOO deep.
But that still doesn't have anything to do with the reason guys like Batman or Daredevil dodge bullets. Normal MU human doesn't have any kind of superhuman powers, and generally is not faster or stronger then any of us are.
Superheroes and villains who are humans don't do that stuff because of some genetical difference.
Well if mutation gives you powers and the human race is a mutant race that would explain it. Why do you think Master Mold flipped because in his world mutated genes have the potential to give you super powers.
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Mutation is the basis of essentially all genetic variation. Polymorphisms are essentially mutations that have become prevalent. By such logic the real world human species, and all species are consequently mutants.
Well from what I understand what you're saying is that just simply differences in organisms can be considered to be mutations. So what you're saying is that for example human are mutants in the sense that they are different from apes?
If thats what you're saying then why aren't humans called mutants. Why does the word exist? Humans in the MU are considered to be mutants because they were deliberatley genetically altered to become humans, but in the real world it just happened. Theres a big difference.
Its like saying all people are Africans because our ancestors descended from Africa but more specifically we are Asian, European etc.
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Last edited by Deadline on Nov 22nd, 2006 at 04:12 PM
No I'm saying genetic variation intraspecies is due to mutation.
The human mutation rate is estimated at approximately 2.5x10^-8 per nucleotide per generation, this means that - from the little I remember from population genetics - in the human population of roughly 6 billion people, for any given locus in the human genome there are 15 "mutants".
You said that most humans don't have mutations. I said you were wrong. You asked me to elaborate. And I did.
15 out of 6 billion....thats not alot im saying that all humans in the MU are mutants.
I hate you.....go away. I knew you would smell blood and come down here. Its about peak humans I like street levelers and yes I guess that would include Captain America. Before I wrote this thread I almost said Dinalfos go away.
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Nov 22nd, 2006 02:11 PM
No I'm saying genetic variation intraspecies is due to mutation.
I hate you.....go away. I knew you would smell blood and come down here. Its about peak humans I like street levelers and yes I guess that would include Captain America. Before I wrote this thread I almost said Dinalfos go away. 
