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Uber Scarlet Witch vs. Franklin Richards Prime vs. Proteus

All at the height of their abilities. Wanda has reforged the entire 616 reality. Franklin once created a pocket universe. And Proteus...well he's still pretty formidable.


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I'm going to say Wanda. Just cos.


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At the height of their powers im still gonna say Franklin. Look how young he was when he made the pocket universes


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Don't read this if you haven't read HoM #7.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Yes but she likely erased him along with all the other mutants at the end of HoM #7


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franklin might become a problem for tribunal itself at the height of his powers

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franklin might become a problem for tribunal itself at the height of his powers


Utter nonsense


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Don't read this if you haven't read HoM #7.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Yes but she likely erased him along with all the other mutants at the end of HoM #7


Current Franklins hardly in a position to withstand such power though is he. Judging by his feats when he's mature i think he'll be more impressive


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Hmm.. if you cannot die, and can restore the dead, not only by recreating them from scratch but also just by revitalising people does that make you beyond Death's power? And if such where would that put you on a cosmic scale?


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Hmm.. if you cannot die, and can restore the dead, not only by recreating them from scratch but also just by revitalising people does that make you beyond Death's power?



Or Death simply lets you for some reason? Who knows?

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Or Death simply lets you for some reason? Who knows?


Good idea. wink

I haevent read house of M can you tell me why you say she cannot die?

Is that in terms of an Olympian/ Eternal sense or a Phoenix sense?


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I'll just put spoiler tags in case.[SPOILER - highlight to read]: She gets shot in the spine with an arrow from Hawkeye, whom she recreated, while playing with the children she recreated. She disassembles the reality of the arrow and she's all better.Doesn't necessarily put her beyond dying I guess but she's been displaying an awful lot of power lately, with effects on an omniversal scale.


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Proteus is a non-factor. Read Exiles 71.

Wanda is the most powerful. She's upsetting the delicate balance of the omniverse.


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franklin might become a problem for tribunal itself at the height of his powers
Not even close. Franklin is Celestial level which is still very much below Tribunal.

I haven't read enough of HOM to know about Wanda but manipulating reality on a cosmic scale is Parallax/Ion level power.


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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: House of M still just seems to be wanda's take on reailty, but it doesn't involve the 616 characters, just her preceptions of those characters. Not only are their massive power descrepincies between the HOM and 616 counterparts, but the storyline had Wanda, Xavier and Magneto going through a wormhole, away from 616-earth. So it could all just be in her head for all we know.


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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: House of M still just seems to be wanda's take on reailty, but it doesn't involve the 616 characters, just her preceptions of those characters. Not only are their massive power descrepincies between the HOM and 616 counterparts, but the storyline had Wanda, Xavier and Magneto going through a wormhole, away from 616-earth. So it could all just be in her head for all we know.


What House of M have you been reading. This is the real 616 reality. The "power descrepencies" are the result of what Wanda has done to the people, and there hasn't been not one wormhole in the whole series. If you're refering to the wormhole that Magneto took her through in the end of the Disassembled arc, the went straight to Genosha as seen in Excalibur when Magneto departed and returned through it. The buring white effect is what it looks like when reality is rewriten on a scale like this. Read all of the House of M spin-off books and it's explained in them.


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hmm...I dont think its 616...If u consider the usual rules of the omniverse, HOM is one possibility but not in continuity with 616.

Wanda is pretty powerful

Franklin has gotten Eternity's direct attention on a few occasions. Essentially he was a big player in the defeat of Abraxis. Galactus and Eternity also Showed up at Roma's place when Franklin increased the powers of the F4.


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I haven't caught up with House of M, so I don't know enough about Scarlet Witch. If this was current Franklin Richards, Proteus could really screw with his mind and give him nightmares (as Mephisto's lackeys did to him) and then some as he did with Phoenix (caused her to experience the sensation of a buried dead person but conscious, or something like that). But as this is full potential Franklin, he would be the winner of these two.

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Yea, Franklin got acknowledged by the celestials as well, they wanted to take him back to their home world to train him as they saw he had the potential to be their equals but the F4 said no.

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hmm...I dont think its 616...If u consider the usual rules of the omniverse, HOM is one possibility but not in continuity with 616.


Well, I've been crazy enough to buy all the House of M books and tie-ins. This is the 616 reality. Roma confimed it was Marvel Core reality in Excalibur when she was about to destroy the entire reality to save the rest of the multiverse. It was also confirmed by the Exiles, and their systems identified it by name as Earth 616. Most of them were pulled out just in time before Wanda did a major reformat of reality a second time and wiped out all mutants.

Marvel said that Wanda has been subtlely altering the MU for some time now, and when all the dust clears there will only be about 300 mutants in the MU.


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