Okay, I'm just going to say it and I don't care who I offend.
Infinite Crisis was a disappointment. It was (as usual) a weak excuse to involve everyone. It lacks Civil War's depth, reality (I mean that on a real world problem level), and controversy.
Civil War is a great excuse to throw in characters long time dead and kill off charcters as they see fit. It's the best idea to involve a lot of characters in one plot line that I think I've ever seen.
It beats the Infinity Guantlet, War, and Crusade. It's better than the Inferno and Onslaught. More interesting than the Secret Wars and twice as compelling as the whole Heroes Reborn line. It's funny to because it's so simple. It really is a simple idea with a lot of wicked twists.
I agree that Infinite Crisis showed promise at first.
If it ended with a real war between heroes and villains rather than just a random set of implied images then it could have been great.
For instance:
If we could have actually seen the fight between Deathstroke - Nightwing - Batman and Robin that would've been nice. Or if we could have seen how many people Black Adam takes down rather than just watching him pull off Amazo's head like it was a toy then it would have been nice.
But we don't get that. We get one showing of Bane breaking someone's back (not even sure who that was) and one or two pictures of total chaos. DETAILS MAN! I want @#$%ing details!
Civil war has started off good but like rewmac has said wait till the end it might be crap. IMO IC was brilliant, the end was a bit below standard but overall it did well.
Well I think its obvious how Civil War will end. I mean can anyone really see every superhero in the MU after this event, running around without secret identities? I can't.
I preferred Civil war (so far) to infinite crisis, but the infinite crisis tie ins (Villains united, Omac project) were great
this is well said but already pretty much universally known.
as for Civil war, yes it is good, great even....but its scale cant be compared to infinity gauntlet or other small cross-overs, this is a MAJOR crossover, and so far so good, so what???? I want it to end BETTER than it has started, or else i wouldve been better off waiting for the Ultimates.
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I thought Infinite Crisis was good, but there a lot of things that keep it from being really great. There a bunch of tie-ins that you had to read to comprehend the entire story, it was fairly predictable IMO and at the end of the day despite all the supposedly huge changes that were gonna be made I have yet to see one. OMG, Wonder-woman was a founding JLA member! Yea, real exciting.
Civil War on the other hand IMO is already better than anything we've seen from Infinite Crisis. Other than it being so grounded in reality which really makes you think, its been a wild ride so far with so many things that have happened already where you know that even if they end the war things won't be the same as they were before.
Tie. Love em both. Love comics. Love good stories. Love good characters.
People didnt come with that "IC was a dissapointment" crap until after they saw Superman save the day again, and given that he's the most hated on the forum[with the thread to prove it] it's easy to understand why.
By the end of issue 3, then 4, then 5, then 6, everyone was still OMG OMG KGDSO STHIS IS SOOOO AWESSOMEEEEEEE. 7 comes... and then the story was crap? Bite me.
Civil War at this point is no better or worse than Crisis was at the same point.
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Last edited by Juntai on Jul 21st, 2006 at 01:11 PM
IC was being built up for years, so you have to look at it as a whole, not just seven issues, which imo makes it quite an achievement in comics...
and as for IC #7, if they were going to show all the fights (and believe me when i say i'd have loved to see em as much as anyone), it would have taken twice the amount of pages as the standard comic did, plus it would have been more expensive too... i don't think they could have split it though, i think the events in the last issue needed to be contained within one comic...
Civil War seems good, though Marvel seems to use these 'big events' a little too often imo... i mean, house of m (which was disappointing) is only a over a few months...
We can't help that DC puts Superman always up to the job. In my opinion as a Superman fan it's sometimes annoying for me too. But he is hated because he is popular and coz of his fanboys and coz of the people who go the vs. thread and say "SPEEDBLITZ" every single time. Same thing with Wolverine. He was once cool. I even like him much. But now he is more disliked to me. IC wasn't that bad. But now Civil War is the case, so I'm just looking forward to it. Especially now coz "Thor" returned.
Well he is Superman, thats what he's there for if nothing else... and Earth 2 Supes did some of the work too, including smacking doomsday after supes had been hit...
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Jul 21st, 2006 05:24 AM
Cap was my hero
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