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Original Teen Titans vs Original Avengers

The founding Teen Titans vs the founding Avengers (with a few additions). Who wins?

Teen Titans
Nightwing
Flash
Tempest
Troia (Current)
Arsenal

+ Raven and Starfire

Avengers
Thor
Iron Man
Ant-Man
Wasp
The Hulk

+ Captain America and Hawkeye


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I'd go for the avengers.

Cap takes Nightwing
Hakeye and Aresenal...well doesn't really matter
Iron Man beats Troia
Thor beats everyone
Hulk beats everyone


well jsut to put it straightforward, the Avengers win. Only Problem might be the Flash but he's not really written to his full potential so i guess he wouldn't do it in that fight either.


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teen titans win kinda easily


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Titans smoke them, it's barely a match.
Flash can take out at LEAST Wasp Iron Man Ant Man Cap and Hawkeye before anyone else even gets moving.
Raven banishes Hulk to purgatory.
Then Thor is all alone.


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Cap kills Nightwing


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Cap kills Nightwing
Flash woulda downed him long before that happened. There's no point in trying to match it up into single one on one fights when Flash could dismantle at LEAST 4 or 5 members before anyone else swung, creating a giant handicap.

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Flash woulda downed him long before that happened. There's no point in trying to match it up into single one on one fights when Flash could dismantle at LEAST 4 or 5 members before anyone else swung, creating a giant handicap.



well assuming flash doesn't take down everyone all at once ( as he does soo very often in the comics roll eyes (sarcastic) ) then couldn't Thor just fly up high and start bringing on the bad weather? also Hulk is the trump card here, if the Titans don't take him down quickly, they have to deal with an increasingly stronger hulk, and all the others...........


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That's cool how you add Raven and Starfire, to fairly powerful Titans, and then add Cap and Hawkeye to the Avengers, who, in a fight like this, are all but useless.


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well assuming flash doesn't take down everyone all at once ( as he does soo very often in the comics ) then couldn't Thor just fly up high and start bringing on the bad weather? also Hulk is the trump card here, if the Titans don't take him down quickly, they have to deal with an increasingly stronger hulk, and all the others...........

Didn't you read what I posted?

Flash can take out at LEAST Wasp Iron Man Ant Man Cap and Hawkeye before anyone else even gets moving.
Raven banishes Hulk to purgatory.
Then Thor is all alone.

He's not going to fare well against that entire team, which includes one of the most power Earth mages, a Goddess, and various other heavy hitters.

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The problem with Flash is that by what they tell you in the comics he is by far the most powerful being ever....but, the fact is that he gets beat by people like Mirror Master, Deathstroke and everyone else....so i don't see why Cap shouldn't be able to beat him...and Thor can easily.


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The problem with Flash is that by what they tell you in the comics he is by far the most powerful being ever....but, the fact is that he gets beat by people like Mirror Master, Deathstroke and everyone else....so i don't see why Cap shouldn't be able to beat him...and Thor can easily.
Forum rules: "For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed."

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Forum rules: "For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed."


But we don't see it. He can run that fast, alright, but it seems like he can't react that fast, he can't hit that hard...he just can't....going by real physics (leaving out that he would die in an instant) just what do you think would happen if he hit someone at lightspeed...lets take Superman, he could beat him easily...but can he really in the comics?.
His powers just don't work that way. We have to go by what he can do...not what a real human running that fast could do no expression


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Forum rules: "For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed."



ok by you logic then flash gets to do this, but what about Hulk and Thor? being banished to another dimension? are they standing still? umm can we sat godforce blast? beserker rage thingy?


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But we don't see it. He can run that fast, alright, but it seems like he can't react that fast, he can't hit that hard...he just can't....going by real physics (leaving out that he would die in an instant) just what do you think would happen if he hit someone at lightspeed...lets take Superman, he could beat him easily...but can he really in the comics?.
His powers just don't work that way. We have to go by what he can do...not what a real human running that fast could do no expression

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Yes...Professor Zoom is actually human right? To be hit at the speed of light with the mass of a white dwarf...there wouldn't be much left of Zoom or would there. Therefore that canniot be right...like that other pic where he takes out people with 300 000 times light speed.


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ok by you logic then flash gets to do this, but what about Hulk and Thor? being banished to another dimension? are they standing still? umm can we sat godforce blast? beserker rage thingy?
Hulks too slow to avoid being thrown into hell by Raven, who herself is the gateway, she just swollows him into herself. Likewise Wally will still react long before Thor and do that the weaker members of the team. Thor isn't that fast in combat situations. That's an issue brought up many of times. In fact, on last page or second to last page of the Thor respect thread is a scan of him being unable to tag Mongoose repeatedly in melee combat and then resorts to the magic hammer. Flash is INFINITELY faster than Mongoose.
Thor will be the one hard to take down and they may lose one or two, but like I said, there's one of the Earths most powerful mages, a goddess, a warrior princess, the daughter of a devil, and Flash, plus two quick strategizing humans in Nightwing and Arsenal.
I don't see how the DC team can really lose.

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yes. You have yet to account for Hulk and Thor. assuming Flash does take out soo many characters sooo easily, it won't be the same for Hulk and Thor. Saying that raven takes them to another dimansion is not sufficient IMO. What says she gets the chance to do so? she hits them both at the same time? she is quicker than they are? there are a lot of variables to account for there...........


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What? When did that happen?

Anyways...he shouldn't be able to survive lightspeed/white dwarf mass punches.....


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yes. You have yet to account for Hulk and Thor. assuming Flash does take out soo many characters sooo easily, it won't be the same for Hulk and Thor. Saying that raven takes them to another dimansion is not sufficient IMO. What says she gets the chance to do so? she hits them both at the same time? she is quicker than they are? there are a lot of variables to account for there...........
Read the post above yours, and.. I never said anything about sending Thor away. I left him unacounted for, and assumed the team that's left[with heavyhitters in spades] would find a sufficient way to defeat a son of a god who's morale just went down the shitter when he lost all his troops to a far superior team.

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