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90 Minutes in Heaven

http://www.90minutesinheaven.com/ (click “launch video” for prelude to Don Piper’s true life account)

http://www.truthsthattransform.org/ (click on this link then under the title, “90 Minutes in Heaven (Part 1) click the word “listen” then click “play.”

Why is Heaven real? Listen to this man’s true life story.

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Good Lord! So this guy was dead as in actually dead and then resuscitated after 90 minutes? That in itself seems extremely odd to me, he would have MAJOR brain damage from lack of oxygen to brain.

If I were him though, I'd sue the a-hole doctors that brought me back to life after 90 mins of death, brain damage aside; he was in heaven already, what happens now if he does something between now and the next time he dies to jeopardize his place in heaven next to good ole J.C.?


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Good Lord! So this guy was dead as in actually dead and then resuscitated after 90 minutes? That in itself seems extremely odd to me, he would have MAJOR brain damage from lack of oxygen to brain.

If I were him though, I'd sue the a-hole doctors that brought me back to life after 90 mins of death, brain damage aside; he was in heaven already, what happens now if he does something between now and the next time he dies to jeopardize his place in heaven next to good ole J.C.?


You have to listen to his testimony to know why he had no brain damage. Don Piper explains as he relates his experience.

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You have to listen to his testimony to know why he had no brain damage. Don Piper explains as he relates his experience.


The cerebral cortex dies after about 7 minutes of oxygen depletion, the brain stem can survive for about 25 minutes and this guy was dead (not just mostly dead) for 90 minutes? Is there a doctor, particularly a brain surgeon that could explain this phenomenon? Is there a doctor in the house?


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The cerebral cortex dies after about 7 minutes of oxygen depletion, the brain stem can survive for about 25 minutes and this guy was dead (not just mostly dead) for 90 minutes? Is there a doctor, particularly a brain surgeon that could explain this phenomenon? Is there a doctor in the house?


I take it that you did not listen to Don's testimony?

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Good Lord! So this guy was dead as in actually dead and then resuscitated after 90 minutes? That in itself seems extremely odd to me, he would have MAJOR brain damage from lack of oxygen to brain.

If I were him though, I'd sue the a-hole doctors that brought me back to life after 90 mins of death, brain damage aside; he was in heaven already, what happens now if he does something between now and the next time he dies to jeopardize his place in heaven next to good ole J.C.?

Doesn't work like that. But, frankly, I'm going to say that this was a hallucination or something simply because this doesn't really happen. At all. And, if it did, people--particularly those bound for hell--would end up really screwed in the head.


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In a car crash..the body likly goes into shock. People easily hallucinate when they are in trauma.


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http://www.tbn.org/index.php/8/1.html (scroll down and click on link entitled, "To Hell and Back")

Atheist doctor's and other people become believers after experiencing Hell. All of these people were stout atheists before their ordeal, many were middle to uppermiddle class professionals. They all testified on the Geraldo Rivera show (back in the day) that they believe in the reality of Heaven, Hell, the Bible, God, and Jesus Christ--after coming back to life.

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http://www.tbn.org/index.php/8/1.html (scroll down and click on link entitled, "To Hell and Back")

Atheist doctor's and other people become believers after experiencing Hell. All of these people were stout atheists before their ordeal, many were middle to uppermiddle class professionals. They all testified on the Geraldo Rivera show (back in the day) that they believe in the reality of Heaven, Hell, the Bible, God, and Jesus Christ--after coming back to life.


Uhh...why doesn't this happen to everyone, then? I'm still going with hallucination.

EDIT: I can't believe I'm the first to make the joke.

"Back in the day, we only had seven minutes in heaven!"


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I take it that you did not listen to Don's testimony?


As far as I can tell, it requires a $13.00 donation to listen to it, so unless you want to fork over the clams, this dog won't hunt....Not that I'm cheap mind you, I just don't like falling for scams. Also, I do not care how Don Piper describes how he thinks he died for 90 mins and then came back to life without any sort of brain damage, I'd like an actual doctor to confirm this phenomenon... Funny how you state your refusal to listen to anything that doesn't fit your bias views, yet you expect me to listen to what you post...


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Doesn't work like that. But, frankly, I'm going to say that this was a hallucination or something simply because this doesn't really happen. At all. And, if it did, people--particularly those bound for hell--would end up really screwed in the head.


What doesn't work like that? When you die as in cardiac arrest, your brain no longer receives oxygen.


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As far as I can tell, it requires a $13.00 donation to listen to it, so unless you want to fork over the clams, this dog won't hunt.... Also, I do not care how Don Piper describes how he thinks he died for 90 mins and then came back to life without any sort of brain damage, I'd like an actual doctor to confirm this phenomenon... Funny how you state your refusal to listen to anything that doesn't fit your bias views, yet you expect me to listen to what you post...

Ewww, donation? **** that. They're no better than televangelists, then--"Send $2,000 to save your soul!"


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Uhh...why doesn't this happen to everyone, then? I'm still going with hallucination.


Let me use your rationale as to why this doesn't happen to everyone. First of all, you have no evidence that it does not happen to "everyone." Now let me proceed. Why doesn't everyone walk on water (the only record that we have is Jesus and Peter who have done this). Why don't all people win the Lottery? Why don't all people get straight A's in school? Why aren't all people tall, short, good-looking etc.? Why aren't all people celebrities? Why did Jesus invariably select Peter, James, and John, instead of all twelve of His disciples for certain situations? So, I think you get the idea. You know you would have to ask God. I believe (and that is all it is my "belief") is that God permits certain people to experience spiritual things, Hell, and Heaven so that they can attest to their existence (respectively).

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As far as I can tell, it requires a $13.00 donation to listen to it, so unless you want to fork over the clams, this dog won't hunt....Not that I'm cheap mind you, I just don't like falling for scams. Also, I do not care how Don Piper describes how he thinks he died for 90 mins and then came back to life without any sort of brain damage, I'd like an actual doctor to confirm this phenomenon... Funny how you state your refusal to listen to anything that doesn't fit your bias views, yet you expect me to listen to what you post...


The link that I provided does not require a fee.

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As far as I can tell, it requires a $13.00 donation to listen to it, so unless you want to fork over the clams, this dog won't hunt....Not that I'm cheap mind you, I just don't like falling for scams. Also, I do not care how Don Piper describes how he thinks he died for 90 mins and then came back to life without any sort of brain damage, I'd like an actual doctor to confirm this phenomenon... Funny how you state your refusal to listen to anything that doesn't fit your bias views, yet you expect me to listen to what you post...


Did you not ask the question concerning why Don did not suffer brain damage? I merely provided you with the answer.

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Let me use your rationale as to why this doesn't happen to everyone. First of all, you have no evidence that it does not happen to "everyone." Now let me proceed. Why doesn't everyone walk on water (the only record that we have is Jesus and Peter who have done this). Why don't all people win the Lottery? Why don't all people get straight A's in school? Why aren't all people tall, short, good-looking etc.? Why aren't all people celebrities? Why did Jesus invariably select Peter, James, and John, instead of all twelve of His disciples? So, I think you get the idea. You know you would have to ask God. I believe (and that is all it is my "belief") is that God permits certain people to experience spiritual things, Hell, and Heaven so that they can attest to their existence (respectively).


Your mixing facts with religion... Walking on water, Jesus picking disciples are all based on faith in believing these things happened, the latter being very possible while the former being impossible. Everything else you stated is either based on genetics (people being tall etc.) or pure luck/ right circumstances (winning the lottery etc.).

Your analogy is severely flawed.


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Your mixing facts with religion... Walking on water, Jesus disciples are all based on faith in believing these things happened, the latter being very possible while the former being impossible.

Everything else is either based on genetics (people being tall) or pure luck/ right circumstances (winning the lottery).

Your analogy is severely flawed.


Validate your claim that life after death without suffering brain damage is impossible.

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Did you not ask the question concerning why Don did not suffer brain damage? I merely provided you with the answer.


Well of course a guy selling a book telling about dead the afterlife and coming back is going to say how he miraculously died and came back to life without brain damage, just like a door to door salesman is going to tell you his product is superior to his competitors product. I'd like an actual doctor to explain away this 'miracle'.


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