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Papaumau
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The best way to tackle international terrorism ?

Bush tried to do it with a sledgehammer cracking a wallnut but all he succeeded in doing was making the world a MUCH more dangerous place.

Now we see Al-Quaeda-connected attacks occurring all over the world with impunity......

What would YOU do to deal with this scourge ?


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Now that we have masses of terrorists it's no easy way to get rid of them. We should have acted preemptively to make good relations instead of egotistical and vile exploitations of their culture, faith and integrity.

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Send all terrorism detainees to county prisons in the following cities for one month for unsupervised detention among all of the prisoners:

Los Angeles
St. Louis
Detroit
Atlanta
Dallas

...and they will never go after anyone again. Why? Their fellow prisoners would assure that.


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Paxelius
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It's a tragedy! People hate each other and constantly ponder new ways of effectively killing each other. How did it start ?

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Well, this is how it started:

Humans are complex yet simple creatures. We have honor, love and a strong sense of justice. If someone feels mortally threatened he will attack. We now have a large group of people who driven to the extreme is ready to do anything in their power to justify their lives.

Why did we have to drive them to the extreme ?

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I don't think what president Bush did made things in the world all that much worst. And I think it's kind of unfair to say such a thing...


The world has always been the same place, filled with terrorists, sickos, and ass.holes.

What's different? The media.

After watching Nick Burg get beheaded...did you think that was the first time something that bad has happened? Because it's not...it's just the first time it's been recorded on film.

30 years ago, the world didn't get to hear about every little terrorist move made in another country. Now adays we hear about everything from night clubs being bombed killing hundreds of peopl all the way to small suicide attacks that kill only one person and injure 3. We hear about EVERYTHING.

Hell...even Halloween feels the effect of the media. Why don't we see as many trick or treators anymore? It's because one year some sick son of a b!tch gave out candy with a razor blade in it. Or some kid one year got abducted. Now parents are afraid to let their kids go out trick or treating because they are afraid their kids may be hurt. Suuuure why not stop millions of children from going out and having a good time, if ONE of the millions might end up getting hurt?

The more media coverage we get....the worst this world seems....when infact, it's the same place it's always been.


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I dont think we can solve it - there are always going to be people out there that will finance and participate in terrorism. I think the war on terrorism has given them just another reason to hate us.

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i'm really not trying to offend anyone here, but form what i've seen difference of religious and political and moral opinion seem to be the main contributors to terrorism as much as some nutcases who just like hurting people.


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quote:
Originally posted by Linkalicious
I don't think what president Bush did made things in the world all that much worst. And I think it's kind of unfair to say such a thing...


The world has always been the same place, filled with terrorists, sickos, and ass.holes.

What's different? The media.



It's unfair to say that Bush shouldn't have gone to war ?!

quote:


The more media coverage we get....the worst this world seems....when infact, it's the same place it's always been.


Yes, the media portraits these atrocities in a modern medium, we had to be there to know the horrors in ancient times. Nothing has changed, but that mean everyting is in perfect order ?

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how do you solve terrorism?

You solve it by making the whole world aware of it. You solve it by sticking up for yourself instead of letting someone else stick up for you.

Everyone has to do their part, not just a team, or an army, or a single nation. Every nation has to be on the same page. The whole world needs to act out against terrism...not just those countries that feel they need to stick up for others.

THAT is why the United States doesn't get attacked as much as it seems they should. Our country is enormous....our borders are huge. There's no reason to think we shouldn't get attacked more...aside from the fact MOST of our nation feels that they need to do their part in order to stop terrorism.

why did 9/11 even happen? Because someone at an airport didn't think a terrorist would ever try to hi-jack a plane with a simple box cutter.

It only takes one slip up...then people start losing their lives. If you stay on your toes, and do your part....the world will be a safer place.


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quote:
Originally posted by Paxelius
It's unfair to say that Bush shouldn't have gone to war ?!


i didn't say it was "unfair to say that Bush shouldn't have gone to war"

I think it's unfair to say...

quote:
originally quoted by Papaumau
Bush tried to do it with a sledgehammer cracking a wallnut but all he succeeded in doing was making the world a MUCH more dangerous place.


because I don't think HE is responsible for making this world more dangerous, infact, i don't think the world is anymore dangerous than it ever was....it just SEEMS that way because of the media.

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Yes, the media portraits these atrocities in a modern medium, we had to be there to know the horrors in ancient times. Nothing has changed, but that mean everyting is in perfect order ?


I wouldn't say perfect order, because we are humans beings....and human beings aren't perfect. Nor would I ever want us to be perfect.

It is our imperfections that make us who we are...and we learn through our imperfections and mistakes...
Besides...who is it that decides what perfect order is? Wouldn't a human have to define "perfect order" and since humans are imperfect...doesn't that make them incapable of such a feat?


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Didn't you know, Link, that sometimes people hear (read) different things when they're hell-bent on a particular opinion? wink


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why did 9/11 happen?

I've heard they (the arab terrorists) wanted to stop the 'world terrorist' (as they put it, and frankly: who's right or wrong here?) - USA, from gaining economic control of the whole earth and to end the desecration of their values and lifestyles.

We might be incapable of ending wars and hate against each other, but we're far below any decent standard by today.

Botankus: You presume too much if this was aimed at me. I'm rather trying to not be so fixed in my definition of the world, because I don't know all sides and the media lies.

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quote:
Originally posted by botankus
Didn't you know, Link, that sometimes people hear (read) different things when they're hell-bent on a particular opinion? wink


yah, i did know that.

I just said what needs to be done....not how it needs to be done.

It's a theory...not something I feel will be acted out during my time.


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Eh, I'm not one for arguing politics anyways. You guys have at it. I already forsee triple-digit post counts by the end of the day.


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quote:
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why did 9/11 happen?

I've heard they (the arab terrorists) wanted to stop the 'world terrorist' (as they put it, and frankly: who's right or wrong here?) - USA, from gaining economic control of the whole earth and to end the desecration of their values and lifestyles.

We might be incapable of ending wars and hate against each other, but we're far below any decent standard by today.


you're not getting the point of my post.

I know the Arab terrorists motives for attacking us. I was stating WHY it was a successful attack.

Would those planes have ever hit the WTC or the Pentagon (if THAT was a plane) if those Arab hijackers never got on the plane to begin with?

If they had no weapon to kill the captain and detain the passengers...what would they have done to gain control of the plane?


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I'll agree with Link on the media thing.

I'll also go ahead and say that I don't think there is any way to stop terrorist attacks. They will always be there.


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But to think we can build a state that is immaculately clean of terrorists and safe is but an illusion, cause terrorists are ordinary people that has been wronged to the brink of madness.

Now this is a major political issue true, I've heard about the horrible Patriot Act 3, my point is that USA is obviously not doing much right in the battle against terrorism. They basically instigated this war (with Iraq) on their own egotistical accords, not paying heed of UN and most european countries which didn't support this war at all. And how can you call that War on terrorism, when the terrorists were not connected to Iraq at all ?. something smells fishy and I won't eat it.

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i dont' feel that you can build a state that is immaculately clean of terrorist. Because a terrorist can be created over night.

If an American soldier kills a small boy's father, then there's a good chance that boy will grow up to hate Americans. (or any country)

There's only 2 things I can think of to stop terrorism:

1.) Find a way to creat a Big Brother...like in Orwell's 1984. a creation that monitiors everyone at all times...(a ridiculous idea)

2.) prove God exsists, and that one religious groups beliefs are actually THE correct beliefs. That way there is only one God, and that one God thinks only that one way. That erases religious intolerance. Then everyone needs to keep having interracial sex so that after a couple hundred generations of mixing results in people with all the same skin color. that eliminates racism. But that still won't stop people from hating one another to the point where they will act out.


Both situations are pretty much impossible....which would make preventing terrorism pretty much....Impossible.


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