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lawest9
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Could Firestorm transmute Adamantium?

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I don't see why not.


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Is Adamantium resistant to transmutation, why would this be a question?

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Yeah...its not resistant, IIRC - that's how Magneto can strip it, he can still affect it on an atomic level.


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Transmutation constitutes an even more fundamental change/manipulation of matter than what Magneto does. Magnetic properties of matter are mostly the result of its constituent atoms and molecules having unpaired valence electron spins [a]. This gives rise to atomic/molecular magnetic moments which can then interact with external magnetic fields (such as those of Magneto). Magneto still has to overcome the metallic bonds present in adamantium in order to break it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_pair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unpaired_electron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramagnetism

In contrast, transmutation involves change in the atomic number of the constituent elements of matter ("nuclear reactions"). This requires fusions/fissions of nuclei, and/or changing protons into neutrons (or vice versa) possibly via electron/positron emission or capture ("beta decay"). Such manipulations would in general require mastery over not only the EM but also the strong and weak forces. Once the atomic nuclei in adamantium have been transformed into, say, helium nuclei the electrons would have no choice but to rearrange around these new nuclei, which would automatically break the metal apart. Thus, as long as adamantium is made of electrons and nuclei, a being capable of transmutation should trivially be able to break/change it. It shouldn't even be any harder than the transmutation of any other material, since the building blocks (electrons, protons, neutrons) are the same.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_number
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_reaction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_decay

[a] Matter can also display nuclear paramagnetism (in addition to / instead of electronic paramagnetism) but this is thousands of times weaker than the electronic one, due to the magnetogyric ratio of the electron being thousands of times larger than that of a typical atomic nucleus (i.o.w. an electron is MUCH more "magnetic" than a nucleus). Nevertheless, the phenomenon of nuclear paramagnetism has some important applications, of which the magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) used in the hospitals is probably the most well-known one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyromagnetic_ratio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucle...ce_spectroscopy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magne...sonance_imaging

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Sure he can. If it's matter or energy, that's how his powers work.

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I'm more curious to know why he couldn't transmute it?


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I'm more curious to know why he couldn't transmute it?
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I'm not familiar with Firestorm, other than it's his thing.

Matter/reality manipulation - or magic - can affect adamantium, as long as the user wields enough power and is competent with it.

Firestorm is a dc loser, so he would probably end up eating his own ass with Galan ejaculating on his face.


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Not sure how that makes him a loser


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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I'm not familiar with Firestorm, other than it's his thing.

Matter/reality manipulation - or magic - can affect adamantium, as long as the user wields enough power and is competent with it.

Firestorm is a dc loser, so he would probably end up eating his own ass with Galan ejaculating on his face.
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Not sure how that makes him a loser

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F*ck, you're right. He's the real winner here, even if he fails to transmute adamantium.

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I'm not familiar with Firestorm, other than it's his thing.


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I know that he's very much into matter manip.

And that there were both white and black incarnations laughing out loud

However, I don't believe he is as versatile as galans would like us to believe. He is a c-list piece of shit waiting to get punked by a random brick.


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In Stilts defence,

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Firestorm is a dc loser


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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Firestorm is a dc loser, so he would probably end up eating his own ass with Galan ejaculating on his face.
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F*ck, you're right. He's the real winner here, even if he fails to transmute adamantium.

Lawest makes the best gay threads.


Dude, leave it to Lawest to make the LGBTQ threads erm like, we get it man.


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Dude, leave it to Lawest to make the LGBTQ threads erm like, we get it man.
I don't know what it is that you think you "get" but I'm at a lost to know what homosexuality has to do with my thread or anything else here, you are barking up the wrong tree.

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Lawest I will put you up against that tree and tickle your intestines.


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Tbh. I like to see a transmuter (like Surfer or Firestorm actually transmute something on the level of adamantium or DC equivalent).


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